White House threatens Buy American veto

UPI ^ | 5/11/2006

[investigateworld]

Take a moment to read "Compromised" by a guy by the name of Terry Reed.
It's out of print, but you can find it on eBay. Before it even hit the newsstands, Strobe Talbot, Slick's good buddy used his rag (Time) to assault the credibility of the author.
Reed was a nobody, why would Talbot burn paper, so to speak?
Cause it's true?
Then look at how Dubya handled the response to the Ports deal. He's now given Hillary a stick to beat on the National Security issue.
Plus his statements in India about outsourcing. It's all a game, just kick back and watch. I only stay in and play as the abortion issue is that important to me.

[fallujah-nuker]

So by this example and your reasoning, you're saying that every item of equipment and material including all components for our military have to be made in our country?

I wrote "Depending upon foreign suppliers for critical items does constrain our military."

[ex-Texan]

Not to worry. The eight largest banks in the U.S. are all foreign owned and foreign controlled. They account for over over 85% of all banking business in the country. Which really means your mortgages are owned by foreign banks. Mortgage bonds sold on Wall Street were also sold to foreign banks, Saudi princes and wealthy Italians.

America has become a debtor nation in the past ten years. We are turning into a Third World Nation where Mexican illegals demonstrate in the streets on May Day (International Communist Party Celebration). Last year alone, China earned a $ 225 billion surplus from Americans that bought cheap retail junk. China is going to starting selling cars in the U.S. by the end of the year. By the way, Mexicans get first preference for college admission over most Americans.

If and when everything falls apart, Americans will wake up and discover the entire country was sold to foreigners. In the meantime, jobs are being outsourced overseas. Profit trumps all today. Who permitted this to happen? Congress. Both parties supported NAFTA and CAFTA. All in the name of free trade.

[Dane]

Having both of you on the same thread exceeded expectations for being entertained today. Thanks.

Actually kinda of a problem there, my replies on FR are not to be taken as "entertainment" for when you are behind your bathroom door.

I'm not pushing what hugh hefner and pat buchanan push.

[kstewskis]

"Buy American" is fine, as long as those products are actually available in America. Buying foreign products to please foreigners is very bad policy, and is also how our military ended up with underpowered, trouble-plagued beretta pistols.

Beretta, being made in Italy, is a good example. Great gun (I have one), but not powerful enough for our military, by their standards.

I'm going to ask a naive question here.

Why is it, that we have a shortage of American products for our military? Is it a cost issue? Not trying to start a flame war, just want to be informed.

[jazusamo]

I wrote "Depending upon foreign suppliers for critical items does constrain our military."

My mistake. I would agree on the critical items, but even there we are going to have to rely on allies for some items because we just don't manufacture everything that's required. And the thing about allies is that we have some today that may not be 10 or 20 years down the road. I believe it's only common sense though that our procurement people not rely on countries that are hostile or cool to us for material.

[MNJohnnie]

Amazing how gung ho to pick fights the Whiners are. Maybe they might try fighting the Democrats on SOMETHING. Seems they lack the guts to fight anyone but their own side. Curiously gutless that habit of theirs.

[freepatriot32]

Was that English?

Yes it was. If you cant understand it you should cut way back on the Chinese language lessons. You don't have to learn that language until they officially become our masters.Which should be in two or three years when we go to war with china over their soon to happen invasion of Taiwan and we loose the shooting war because they had all the contracts to supply our military with ammunition and guns because bush would rather be a good little nwo globalist then a patriotic american president.

[stopem]

I don't recall saying I was trying to.

I made a simple statement.

[Sir Gawain]

Doesn't it warm your heart to prop up a murderous regime in China?

[gondramB]

>>he wants to veto buying american what country is he president of again?<<

We should extend this - why limit it to part of the budget - we should ban Americans from buying foreign goods in general. Sure it may cost a lot more and kill our exports - its the principal of the thing. right?

[P8riot]

I was onboard a ship in the Med back in the 80's and we had to buy some Israeli coppper busbar to replace some damaged in a propulsion plant load center fire. If we hadn't we'd have had to wait a week or more for it to arrive from the states as there were no replacements on any of our task force ships. We would've had our capability reduced substantially during that time.

Being that I think I am correct in assuming that the Israeli's have supplied the Chi-Coms in the past, it stands to reason that this policy would have caused quite a problem had it been in effect back then.

[isthisnickcool]

I'm apalled that you would use that kind of language when speaking to the president. He won't listen to you unless you speak Spanish.

[VRWC For Truth]

Your self-portrait.

[Young Scholar]

You are proving once again why the founders tried to keep uneducated populists from running the country.

[Old_Mil]

WASHINGTON, May 11 (UPI) -- The White House Thursday threatened to veto the House versions of the 2007 defense authorization bill.

The White House took the action because of a series of "buy American" provisions.

The White House contends that the prohibition on purchasing foreign goods for the U.S. military will cause "irreparable damage" to U.S. efforts to build alliances and coalitions.

There was a time in our history when we understood that matters of national defense were not to be outsourced, period. How the history of the world would have been different had the Army Air Corps been buying Mitsubishi fighters in 1930.

It is unfortunate that the two vetos this White House has threatened have dealt with issues that would directly compromise American security.

[RFT1]

Does the president really want to get his ratings below 20?

[Cobra64]

Jeeze. You really ripped F-M. To suggest that he lives in a trailer park and picks lice has nothing to do with his "buy America" opionions does it?

[Charles H. (The_r0nin)]

Considering the technological requirements of the modern military, would you like to estimate the percentage of microchips in US military vehicles that are American made? And where we will get them in the next 3 - 5 years (a reasonable lead-time for factory construction) after this stupidity passes?

Only a fool cuts off his nose to spite his face...

[A. Pole]

Does the president really want to get his ratings below 20?

Will it be the record?