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To: ClearCase_guy

I know. However, you understandably come at the issue as I used to based on public education.

We learned about the robber barons and child labor, instead of the Rockefeller/Morgan takeover of our Govt; first via the ICC, then the FED & income taxes, then the FDR court's unconstitutional (sans amendment) rewrite of the Constitution giving congress unlimited spending authority it never before had.

Terrorism -- Would the LP support a pre-emptive strike against Saddam?

Probably not since it was the BP & Std Oil traitors of liberty that mucked it all up to begin with.

Abortion -- Would the LP support government restrictions on abortion?

Probably not, but they definitely would support the states deciding for themselves per the constitution.

Immigration -- Would the LP support a national policy to end Illegal Immigration?

Sure, if it's constitutional.

For you see, after growing up left in the 60's, veering to RWR w/his campaign speeches & a just learned Laffer Curve in econ 101, I have since studied the economics and history of America.

My conclusion is that both the socialist left welfare statists, and the corp subsidy elites and military statist right, are neither one the solution to returning us to the Constitution our Founders gave their all to bequeath us.

For all the good things done by W & Congress, the bad ones are nearly untenable.


11 posted on 05/15/2006 9:57:50 AM PDT by Marxbites (Freedom is the negation of Govt to the maximum extent possible. Today, Govt is the economy's virus.)
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To: Marxbites
I was a member of the Libertarian Party. My knowledge of their policies may be a little out-dated, but are not, I assure you, derived from Public Schooling on the subject.

Terrorism? How many Libertarians believe that the MidEast is a problem because big business ("BP & Std Oil traitors of liberty") mucked it all up? Most Libertarians are reluctant to blame for-profit corporations for the world's problems.

Abortion? How many Libertarians make a distinction on government regulation of abortion between National and State governments? Most Libertarians think that government oppression is government oppression. Conservatives tend to think that local control is better, but Libertarians think government tyranny, whether near or far, is wrong.

Immigration? How many Libertarians think that a national policy blocking free movement of free people is OK -- "if it's in the Constitution"? Most libertarians think that immigration is an issue of trespassing on private property owned by citizens. So long as you're not trespassing, "it's all good".

I don't want to sound like Tom Cruise, but: I don't think you understand the Libertarian party very well. I do.

13 posted on 05/15/2006 10:10:45 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Never question Bruce Dickinson!)
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To: Marxbites; ClearCase_guy

Here is the libertarian party platform on Immigration

The Issue: We welcome all refugees to our country and condemn the efforts of U.S. officials to create a new "Berlin Wall" which would keep them captive. We condemn the U.S. government's policy of barring those refugees from our country and preventing Americans from assisting their passage to help them escape tyranny or improve their economic prospects.

The Principle: We hold that human rights should not be denied or abridged on the basis of nationality. Undocumented non-citizens should not be denied the fundamental freedom to labor and to move about unmolested. Furthermore, immigration must not be restricted for reasons of race, religion, political creed, age or sexual preference. We oppose government welfare and resettlement payments to non-citizens just as we oppose government welfare payments to all other persons.

Solutions: We condemn massive roundups of Hispanic Americans and others by the federal government in its hunt for individuals not possessing required government documents. We strongly oppose all measures that punish employers who hire undocumented workers. Such measures repress free enterprise, harass workers, and systematically discourage employers from hiring Hispanics.

Transitional Action: We call for the elimination of all restrictions on immigration, the abolition of the Immigration and Naturalization Service and the Border Patrol, and a declaration of full amnesty for all people who have entered the country illegally.


20 posted on 05/15/2006 6:08:28 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (Stupidity can be a self-correcting problem.)
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