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The problem isn't that Bush has proposed "comprehensive" immigration reform, but that he's proposed the wrong "comprehensive" immigration reform.

I don't agree. He is seriously addressing a 40 year in the making problem. His proposals to work harder to secure the border, reform the terribly flawed temporary workers permit program (from which a sizable segment of today's illegals come from) and to address those we are currently here illegally is exactly the right systematic process in my opinion.

Well then, you are in agreement with the great majority of Democrats. Congratulations! Meanwhile, I'm in agreement with the majority of Republicans.

I don't agree. He is seriously addressing a 40 year in the making problem. His proposals to work harder to secure the border, reform the terribly flawed temporary workers permit program (from which a sizable segment of today's illegals come from) and to address those we are currently here illegally is exactly the right systematic process in my opinion.

Dev, I've supported Bush on everything including the Miers nomination, even when I did not think she was a good choice. However, on immigration I cannot. There have been 8 amnesties since 1980, and things keep getting worse. Family members of citizens attempting to immigrate here LEGALLY need 8 to 25 years to get here, and if 12 million illegals are given a path to citizenship, then future family members can forget ever coming. As it is have to wait at the back of the line...overseas, not here. Furthermore, these people are not allowed to visit their relatives here, and that due to American law, not Russian. Somewhere, somehow truth, justice and the American way went down the drain when America considers legal immigration, AND THAT IS EVIL.

"I don't agree. He is seriously addressing a 40 year in the making problem."

yes, it started 40 years ago with a bill that Kennedy wrote in 1965.

Now we are facing the horrible consequences of that bad Kennedy immigration bill, and the solution is ... McCain-Kennedy?!?

Nuts.

It's not a solution it's a surrender, that will result in 100 million new 3rd world migrants in our country in the next generation.

"He is seriously addressing"
We cannot control immigration without enforcing the law.
Let me ask you, how many illegal immigrants will be deported under McCain-Kennedy or Hagel-Martinez?
How many? Ask your senator.
How much money and effort are they putting into INS enforcement and employer verification?
How many fines for employers?

Then come back and tell us about "serious".