we can have security fences, patrols, border agents interdicting them, surveillance, and a range of other things - without these measures.
c'mon, let's get real here.
and let me also add - right now, most americans are in favor of border security. but allow the media to run a few months of "rodney king" style videos of people being gunned down at the border, or caught in an electrified fence, or a moat of boiling oil - and US public opinion will turn. do you want that?
Amen. I'm sick of the DU-like comments. The only way to win this is via realistic means. This other crap is truly counterproductive.
Oceanview:
What do you think the odds are of a full-length fence?
Also, the Senate has a provision to disqualify those who've committed felonies from citizenship. Is that limited to those already convicted or will it extend to those convicted prior to applying for citizenship?
IOW, a lot of illegals have committed ID theft, used false SSNs etc, and destroyed people's (including children) credit. Will they lose the citizenship opportunity?
Personally, I'm opposed to the amnesty/citizenship stuff. I'm related and am friends with folks who've come here legally etc. Giving illegals citizenship within a few years it just junk when others have literally waited and toiled for decades.