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The Bush-Kennedy Immigration Tsunami
The New American ^

Posted on 05/19/2006 6:46:23 AM PDT by Irontank

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To: calex59

I see. Another example of the Perpetually Pissed hysteric Validate-my-emotional-feelings-about-Immigration-don't- bother-me-with-facts-and-reality daily rants. That it is utter nonsense doesn't matter. It validates the Perpetually Pissed and that is all that matters. So what is it going to be Monday? 250,000,000? 300,000,000? 350,000,000. The number has all ready doubled THIS week. The ONLY thing going up faster then Education spending is Illegal Immigrantion guesstimates


21 posted on 05/19/2006 9:57:14 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Conservative, The simple fact about DC is this . "There is more work to do"...)
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To: Irontank
Seems the figure has jumped from 130 million to 200 million sence the Heritage Foundation's story broke just 2 days ago. How did we add another 70 million overnight?

With the entire population of Mexico being just over 104 million, I have a hard time with the math, even when I consider all the countries in the world with people with people wanting to come to America.
22 posted on 05/19/2006 10:02:51 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: Irontank

I was out and about this morning and saw a printed small sign on a car next to me: "Immigration Bill -- Blame me I voted for Bush -- Sorry". I fear the driver isn't alone on in his feelings.


23 posted on 05/19/2006 10:05:56 AM PDT by engrpat
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To: MNJohnnie
Even the author of the Heritage Foundation story in a radio interview I heard said his 130 million was the high-end worse case scenario. By why bother with details like that. The big number make better headlines.

Its like some wall street news service coming out and saying that the price of gas in 2009 could be between 2.50 and 6.00 a gallon, and the next day headlines on blogs read - experts predict 6.00 a gal by 2009.
24 posted on 05/19/2006 10:11:03 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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Now, Team Bush, who continue to say that amnesty isn't amnesty...

Amnesty is an automatic path to citizenship.

This is not an automatic path to citizenship.

This is a comprehensive pathway that will bring millions out of the shadows and into the light.

YUMA, AZ -- "First of all, in this debate there should be -- nobody should be given an automatic citizenship -- that's called amnesty. I oppose amnesty. Amnesty would be unfair to those who are here lawfully, to those who have played by the rules. Amnesty would undermine the rule of law. And amnesty would invite a further wave of illegal immigrants."

-- Pres. Bush
5/18/2006

25 posted on 05/19/2006 10:20:59 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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BS

It is amnesty.

It is allowing illegals to continue their activities unabated, until they pay a fine. It removes none of them. It grants them rights and privileges. Thusly, it pardons their illegal actions. And that is amnesty.

You can parse and nuance and use 'linguist precision' (the new WH buzz phrase) but that is just lipstick on this pig.


26 posted on 05/19/2006 10:33:27 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: NavyCanDo
Even the author of the Heritage Foundation story in a radio interview I heard said his 130 million was the high-end worse case scenario. By why bother with details like that. The big number make better headlines.

Robert Rector, who authored the Heritage Foundation's study was with Senator Sessions at his press conference. Rector has said 217 million immigrants is unlikely over the next 20 years because he doesn't believe the guest worker caps will be hit every year (thereby triggering the automatic increases). This is an undeniable fact though...the way the Senate bill was set up (since amended), 217 million immigrants could be admitted over the next 20 years...this is not an estimate...it is the maximum number that could have been realized under that bill. Whether or not it was realized is where the estimates come in

Would it be much better if only 1/4 of the potential immigrants come to the US over the next 20 years? Would you be happy to have 50 million more low skilled aliens in this country? Exactly how does that benefit the American people as a whole?

I do get a chuckle out of people that do not learn from history. When the 1965 Immigration Act was passed (radically altering the low immigration policies the US had in place since 1924), Congressmen and Seantors assured the American people that the high estimates of immigrants should not concern them...they would never come to pass.

First our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. Under the proposed bill, the present level of immigration remains substantially the same…Second, the ethnic mix of the country will not be upset…Contrary to the charges in some quarters, [the bill] will not inundate America with immigrants from any one country or area, or the most populated and deprived nations of Africa and Asia
--Senator Ted Kennedy in advocating passage of the 1965 Immigration Act

Could this prediction have been more wrong on every count...and there are many more such quotes in the Congressional record. Don't be naive and don't get fooled again

27 posted on 05/19/2006 10:57:08 AM PDT by Irontank (Let them revere nothing but religion, morality and liberty -- John Adams)
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To: TomGuy
You can parse and nuance and use 'linguist precision' (the new WH buzz phrase) but that is just lipstick on this pig.

My other post was sarcasm. I agree with you on this.

Heather Mac Donald: Bush's "illegals-must-wait-at-the-end-of-the-line" line is a con: by remaining in the country and jumping into the citizenship line, rather than the visa line, illegals have catapulted way ahead of law-abiding intending immigrants waiting in their home countries for a visa.

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George Borjas: ...illegals being granted relief will have to "wait in line behind those who play by the rules." As of last night, some Filipinos have been waiting since November 1, 1983. Somehow, I suspect that Bush's amnesty does not include a 23-year queue. In short, an untrustworthy and depressing sales pitch.

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28 posted on 05/19/2006 11:19:11 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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