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North American Union to Replace USA? ("is this the plan?" alert!)
HumanEventsOnline.com ^ | 5/19/2006 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 05/19/2006 6:56:03 AM PDT by Dark Skies

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To: hershey
"We haven't had millions of Mexicans pouring over the border before now."

Yes. We have. Why do you think Reagan gave them amnesty in 1986. Do you really think this is a new problem. But your original statement slams Bush for not securing the border in a time of war. He joins a long and distinguished list of Presidents in that regard.

"What makes me mad is that, and I'll say it again, we weren't asked if we wanted to do this."

Do what?

481 posted on 05/21/2006 5:37:43 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: Dark Skies
I wonder if this explains the AAMVA's plan to force states to sign the Driver License Agreement that was originally included in Sensenbrenner's Real ID Act ? BTW, found out info that Sensenbrenner is heir to Kimberly Clark company which bought a company that is involved with RFID chips.

The AAMVA has many parts of its web page locked out from the public. They promote policy and hard lobbying but yet, are not accountable to the public.

Curious, I wonder if the AAMVA is involved with the CFR such as its CEO - Linda Lewis-Pickett being an individual member. The CFR has many corporate executives who are members including executives from supposed conservative corporations such as DoD contractors.
482 posted on 05/21/2006 5:40:19 PM PDT by CORedneck
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To: nicmarlo
"a full week's worth of threads, EVERY SINGLE ONE FROM LAST WEEK, have been scattered to the wind because someone REMOVED the keyword IMMIGRATION FROM ALL OF THEM."

Has there been any explanation?

Or merely the usual denials...

483 posted on 05/21/2006 5:47:28 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Czar; Kimberly GG

I believe the answer has been no answer. But we can check with Miss Kimberly for that.


484 posted on 05/21/2006 5:48:46 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: Czar
"Has there been any explanation?
Or merely the usual denials..."

Why don't you ping the moderators and ask them?

485 posted on 05/21/2006 5:52:09 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: MikefromOhio
Come on now, let's not bring reality into this

Sorry...I...I must have lost my head there for a minute.

I'm feeling much better now.

Now, hand me a torch and let's storm the castle and string up the traitor.

486 posted on 05/21/2006 5:52:39 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (I can't complain...but sometimes I still do.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

I wish I could find a picture of that guy who was arrested a couple weeks ago....LOL


487 posted on 05/21/2006 5:54:49 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (aka MikeinIraq - Woohoo!! I'm on A List!!! yay!!!!)
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To: CORedneck

This is all the back door into the UN. The Un wants a head count of all their peoples.

As usual, there will be big bucks and corruption in all this. Look at this article and see what Tom Ridge, the former head of Homeland Security is up to.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/05/01/business/Ports.php

Then go to http://www.daon.com

Daon is not an American company. So we will be putting American ID's in a foreign company. Anyway, Tom Ridge, is on the board of this company so it must be hunky-dory. Sarc.



488 posted on 05/21/2006 6:02:29 PM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: Rokke
""Damn the facts...full speed ahead!"

If you have any facts to cite that are contra, and persuasive, I'm sure we would all appreciate seeing them. Since you choose to sneer at what has become a mountain of very disturbing evidence, perhaps you can put some of your own information forward that might relieve our concerns.

Got any?

489 posted on 05/21/2006 6:13:36 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Czar
"If you have any facts to cite that are contra, and persuasive, I'm sure we would all appreciate seeing them."

I've got loads. Would you like to discuss the facts about the CFR or the document mentioned earlier in this thread called "Building a North American Community"?

490 posted on 05/21/2006 6:18:45 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: joanie-f; nicmarlo; wardaddy; B4Ranch; Euro-American Scum; Brad's Gramma; kstewskis; cva66snipe
"Meanwhile, The American Crisis is worsening by the day, while our ‘leadership’ continues to turn a convenient blind eye, polishing their primping and posturing skills, and offering up meaningless, toothless, mirage ‘solutions’ to a cancer that threatens to eventually render our individual liberty and sovereignty extinct."

Most amazing of all, these crapweasels actually think we're just going to sit still for this, while illegal aliens demonstrate in our cities and streets, and the Mexican invasion continues unabated.

By now, it should be clear we are unable to rely on Washington to live up to their obligations and solemn duty to protect and defend the United States. Oaths of office have either been forgotten or are considered trivial verbiage.

Minuteman was a good start. Now we need to expand and build that into something far stronger.

491 posted on 05/21/2006 6:28:41 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: calcowgirl

I agree that the fact that Teacher's Unions are against vouchers doesn't mean they are good--- I was being a little humorous (all right, very little). I do think given the general record of the unions, their opposition is a good sign, though, and that there are many other good reasons to buy into vouchers.

Mexico keeping its tariffs hurts Mexico; if that wasn't the case, it would simply keep raising its tariffs. Sure, Alexander Hamilton advocated tariffs to protect infant industries, but as Ronald Reagan noted, these infant idustries have a way of never growing up. The United States would be better off if it phased out all tariffs, regardless of what other nations do. As President Coolidge put it, "The business of the American people is America is business" not any particular business.

I agree with you that "new requirements placed on USA businesses, and jurisdiction of foreign courts or other quasi-governmental bodies is not a positive step" but Nafta constituted a net lessening of regulation upon American businesses by increasing their freedom to buy and sell where they wished to.


492 posted on 05/21/2006 6:32:36 PM PDT by mjolnir ("All great change in America begins at the dinner table.")
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To: Czar

Hmmm. I'll take that as a no. I'm so surprised.


493 posted on 05/21/2006 6:32:44 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: Czar; joanie-f; wardaddy; B4Ranch; Euro-American Scum; Brad's Gramma; kstewskis; cva66snipe
By now, it should be clear we are unable to rely on Washington to live up to their obligations and solemn duty to protect and defend the United States. Oaths of office have either been forgotten or are considered trivial verbiage. Minuteman was a good start. Now we need to expand and build that into something far stronger.

It's very clear the oaths of office taken were beyond insincere. Something far stronger....and set afire across the nation!

494 posted on 05/21/2006 6:38:30 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: Rokke

You tried to slam Jerome Corsi because he wrote an article stating that the CFR had developed a plan to integrate the US with Canada and Mexico. I posted another article to show he wasn't the only author to come to this conclusion.


495 posted on 05/21/2006 6:40:58 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer
For America to maintain its system of free enterprise, we cannot push "free trade". You cannot have "free trade" and not have supranational law. You cannot have "free trade" and a free country at the same time.

When the United States lowers our own trade barriers, it pursues a free trade agenda. When another contry does so, it too pursues a free trade agenda.

No supranational law needed whatsoever. Why do you think Hong Kong was so proseprous as a British Protectorate? Why is it still so prosperous today? Not becuase of tariffs and duties. http://www.heritage.org/research/features/index/country.cfm?id=HongKong

496 posted on 05/21/2006 6:41:08 PM PDT by mjolnir ("All great change in America begins at the dinner table.")
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To: Rokke

Are you now or have you ever been a member of the CFR? Have you ever been employed by the Bush Administration, the Clinton Administration, or the GWBush Administration for any purpose? Has your organization ever been granted money by the Bush Administration, the Clinton Administration, or the GWBush Administration?


497 posted on 05/21/2006 6:43:11 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: Rokke; hershey

The day after 9/11 it was secured. BY MEXICO! They closed the border until they thought it was safe to resume their invasion.


498 posted on 05/21/2006 6:44:29 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: Rokke
Yes. We have

No we haven't. The demographic change the "free traders" inspired didn't actually start to happen until after the 1986 amnesty.
499 posted on 05/21/2006 6:46:26 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer

Thanks for that article.


500 posted on 05/21/2006 6:47:01 PM PDT by gondramB (He who angers you, in part, controls you. But he may not enjoy what the rest of you does about it.)
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