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Fence or No Fence, What’s All the Fuss About?
NR online ^ | 5/19/06 | Lawrence Kudlow

Posted on 05/19/2006 10:07:10 AM PDT by zook

Let’s also not forget that immigrants come here to work, raise families, and assimilate. They would in effect become a much-needed churchgoing blue-collar middle class — an all but forgotten demographic that is crucial to a healthy America.

And yes — they must speak English. President Bush was eloquent on the Melting Pot model of immigration, borrowing from Ronald Reagan’s City on the Hill vision: “Americans are bound together by our shared ideals, an appreciation of our history, respect for the flag we fly, and an ability to speak and write the English language. English is also the key to unlocking the opportunity of America. . . . [Immigrants] renew our spirit . . . and they add to the unity of America.”

Hotheaded conservative populists who equate temporary workers and a long-term path to citizenship with amnesty are dead wrong, and their calls for deportation are lunacy. Imagine U.S. security forces somehow putting immigrants and their families onto armed busses and shipping them back to Mexico. What would that say about our country?

Dead-of-night deportation raids smack of totalitarianism, not Americanism.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; barfalert; borderfence; fencenow; kudlow
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Good stuff from Kulow.
1 posted on 05/19/2006 10:07:11 AM PDT by zook
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"Let’s also not forget that immigrants come here to work, raise families, and assimilate."
The "assimilate" part is open to question.
2 posted on 05/19/2006 10:09:15 AM PDT by GSlob
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To: zook

". . . the ant-immigrant crowd"
pops up again.

These guys can't even get language straight. They won't use "amnesty" and they won't use "illegal immigration".

And we made fun of Clinton and his problem with the word "is".


3 posted on 05/19/2006 10:10:01 AM PDT by oldbill
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To: zook

BS alert from a typical Wall Street Journal "conservative"


4 posted on 05/19/2006 10:12:43 AM PDT by piceapungens
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To: zook

"Hotheaded conservative populists who equate temporary workers and a long-term path to citizenship with amnesty are dead wrong, and their calls for deportation are lunacy. Imagine U.S. security forces somehow putting immigrants and their families onto armed busses and shipping them back to Mexico. What would that say about our country? "

Well, for starters it may say that the US actually does care about rule of law. And why al this "dead-of-night sweep" hysteria? Sure we can't deport 12 million in one day....but it works just as well if you get 'em one at a time.




5 posted on 05/19/2006 10:13:19 AM PDT by Sterm26 (Death before Dhimmitude!)
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To: zook
"Wage differentials between Mexico and the U.S. are huge — largely because of Mexico’s failure to liberalize its economy. So, as long as American job opportunities and higher wages beckon, immigrants in search of a better life will stream northward into the U.S. — fence or no fence. This has always been the heart of the problem"

he doesn't take it to it's logical conclusion, that eventually, with no restraints on illegals, wage differentials in certain industries will become minimal.

the only option is, when they come through, immediatley issue them a UNION card.
6 posted on 05/19/2006 10:16:20 AM PDT by stylin19a (There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't)
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To: zook

You're right, I'll be sure to print it off and use it for what it's best for. Toilet paper.


7 posted on 05/19/2006 10:16:23 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: zook

Another silly article

With that logic, we should allow all 1Billion Chinese to come into the country and 250 million Bangladeshi, etc.


8 posted on 05/19/2006 10:18:19 AM PDT by soccer_maniac (Do some good while browsing FR --> Join our Folding@Home Team# 36120: keyword: folding@home)
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To: zook

Don't you just love the way people try to rationalize ILLEGAL immigration, as though it's a good thing. Dolts.


9 posted on 05/19/2006 10:18:59 AM PDT by Luna (Lobbing the Holy Hand Grenade at Liberalism)
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To: zook

I love Larry but not this logic which caved Europe.


10 posted on 05/19/2006 10:19:56 AM PDT by larryjohnson (USAF(Ret))
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To: zook

Let’s also not forget that immigrants come here to work, raise families, and assimilate.



THe ones from South America do come to work (illegally), raise families (anchor babies) and assimilate (us to them, not the other way around).


11 posted on 05/19/2006 10:21:00 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (You want my vote? I want border security and no criminals rewarded for criminal behavior)
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To: oldbill
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12 posted on 05/19/2006 10:21:12 AM PDT by Rakkasan1 (Illegal immigrants are just undocumented friends you haven't met yet!)
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To: zook

"Good stuff from Kulow."

Only if this is now the bizarro world.


13 posted on 05/19/2006 10:22:16 AM PDT by flashbunny
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To: soccer_maniac
yeah and how about 10,000 Al Qaeda operatives. yay.
14 posted on 05/19/2006 10:22:23 AM PDT by Havok (I like meat, guns, and comic books. Am I a bad conservative?)
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To: Rakkasan1

Please tell me that's a t-shirt that's for sale somewhere.


15 posted on 05/19/2006 10:22:35 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: zook
" ...[Immigrants] renew our spirit . . . and they add to the unity of America."

Yeah.


16 posted on 05/19/2006 10:22:38 AM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: zook
Let’s also not forget that immigrants come here to work, raise
families, and assimilate.


Kudlow is a much smarter guy than I am.
But on "assimilate", he's ignorant.

Too bad I moved away from Los Angeles last year.
I'd ask him to spend a day riding the MTA buses through South
Central and East Los Angeles and the light rail as well.

He'd either have a new outlook on that "assimilate" thang.
And/or be babbling incoherently at what he saw and heard.
17 posted on 05/19/2006 10:23:53 AM PDT by VOA
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"BS alert from a typical Wall Street Journal "conservative" "

Wall Street practically invented sacrificing the long term for short term gains. Businesses, and therefore, stocks will gain from the influx of cheap labor, short term.

That is Kudlow's focus.


18 posted on 05/19/2006 10:24:34 AM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: zook
Now I love Larry Kudlow, but this.....
He is just plain wrong.

For example this part from the article:

"Hotheaded conservative populists who equate temporary workers and a long-term path to citizenship with amnesty are dead wrong, and their calls for deportation are lunacy. Imagine U.S. security forces somehow putting immigrants and their families onto armed busses and shipping them back to Mexico. What would that say about our country? "

"Hotheaded conservatives"? Oh dear.
Larry, they are just demanding that the law be carried out.
Nothing hot headed about that.
You don't give citizenship to a guy that invades your home and proceeds to defaecate on your property.
You simply don't.

What would "putting immigrants and their families onto armed busses and shipping them back to Mexico" say about our country?
It says that when foreigners breaks our laws, far from us putting them in prison, we merely ship them back to where they came from, so they can be with their loving families that have missed them so much, so they can have a cuddle.
That is a very humane act.
19 posted on 05/19/2006 10:24:37 AM PDT by Jameison
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These guys haven't got a clue about why mexicans come here. They come here for two reasons. One is to make money, and the other is to occupy. There are absolutely no thoughts of this shining-city-on-a-hill crap in their heads whatsoever. They are loyal to Mexico and the mexican flag. Assimilation is non existant. If anything, Americans are being forced to assimilate the mexican culture. That's how it is in San Diego. And LA. Right now. No one assimilates unless they have to.


20 posted on 05/19/2006 10:24:40 AM PDT by ecomcon
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