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Ships tipped off to surprise searches(LONG, BEACH, CA)
San Diego Union ^ | May 20, 2006 | Timothy Egan

Posted on 05/20/2006 6:08:33 AM PDT by radar101

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But shipping companies say the surprise boardings at sea cause unnecessary delays, costing up to $40,000 an hour.....How much will a new Los Angeles Basin cost?
1 posted on 05/20/2006 6:08:34 AM PDT by radar101
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To: radar101

Or... How much per hour will is cost to have the basin look like Chernobyl for the next 300-500 years.


3 posted on 05/20/2006 6:13:02 AM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Tonk, the San Diego Union is picking on your service.


4 posted on 05/20/2006 6:14:54 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: radar101

My thoughts exactly.


5 posted on 05/20/2006 6:16:09 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? YOU HAVE NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT. Actually, you lack even a legitimate excuse.)
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To: radar101

I'd say the element of surprise is a bit lacking when you give 24hrs notice that the surprise is coming.


6 posted on 05/20/2006 6:17:39 AM PDT by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: 4butnomorethan30characters

A few years ago there was a big stink sent up by Mexico because Port officials where checking Mexicans at the Ports-of-Entry for seat belts and Arizona Automobile insurance. The practice stopped. Now, if you are so unfortunate as to get into an accident with a car bearing Mexican license plates you most likely will need your uninsured motorist coverage on your own insurance and the other driver will be cited and released never to be seen until you appear in a civil court having to prove that you are not at fault and that you don't have to pay his disability payments for the rest of his life.
http://www.federalobserver.com/archive.php?aid=6401

GUESS WHERE THOSE ORDERS CAME FROM?!


7 posted on 05/20/2006 6:20:09 AM PDT by radar101 (The two hallmarks of Liberals: Fantasy and Hypocrisy)
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“There's no way we could patrol this whole thing ourselves,” a spokesman for the Coast Guard here, Lt. Tony Migliorini, said. “A lot of this, we're making it up as we go along. We're creating it from scratch.”

I don't think Lt. Migliorini is a very effective spokesman for our Coast Guard.

The Coast Guard's highest ranking members have been saying what a great job the Coast Guard is doing in adequately "screening" every container that comes into the United States, but here we have a lieutenant who says that the Coast Guard isn't even making adequate patrols.

8 posted on 05/20/2006 6:25:49 AM PDT by snowsislander
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To: nuconvert

The question I have is who made the decision on the advance notice? It sounds like something Washington could have come up with - the interests on big business (and its lobbyists) are more important than national security.


9 posted on 05/20/2006 6:27:43 AM PDT by BW2221
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To: radar101

I suppose the delays caused by customs (in both airports and seaports) cost us money as well. If they don't like the delays, they can always manufacture the goods in the USA.


10 posted on 05/20/2006 6:31:34 AM PDT by Tai_Chung
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The unintended consequences of the ship sources.

Recently Koizumi (sp?) of Japan said that if these delays continue they will send their ships to Canada instead of California.

Sometimes the ships are held at sea for days. Or they are held in port and not allowed to be unloaded for days.

Don't know what the solution is, just stating the problems for the shippers.

11 posted on 05/20/2006 6:32:42 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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The unintended consequences of the ship SEARCHES.

Recently Koizumi (sp?) of Japan said that if these delays continue they will send their ships to Canada instead of California.

Sometimes the ships are held at sea for days. Or they are held in port and not allowed to be unloaded for days.

Don't know what the solution is, just stating the problems for the shippers.

12 posted on 05/20/2006 6:32:57 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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FYI Ping

I wonder why they bother searching at all then.

I guess if they've got the BIG ONE they might not know it anyway.


13 posted on 05/20/2006 6:34:19 AM PDT by WestCoastGal
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To: radar101

I bet that the UAE port authority doesn't do things like this....


14 posted on 05/20/2006 6:34:28 AM PDT by Loud Mime (War is humanity's way of dealing with the tyranny caused by liberalism)
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To: radar101

I am not sure about the $40,000 an hour cost. I could see a lost spot on the pier costing that but not just on hour at sea costing $40k.

I may have missed it but what are they are saying that the crew is more efficient during the inspection when given this notice?

There is more to this. What would they do with the advance notice? Turn around and go back? Or maybe they would lift a 40' container off and dump it. I am guessing that would be kind of a hassle and if (and that is a big if) it was done there would be evidence of them doing that.

What are they looking for anyway? Just checking paperwork. I mean how much can you search in 1 hour. I am guessing it is a paperwork check with some random containers' seals being inspected.

I am probably in the minority, as ususal, but I don't think these "tip offs" are of any consequense. I just don't see them being able to do anything to conceal anything they have that would not already be concealed enough to get through an inspection of this type.

Why not just drive whatever you got over the border? Less hassle more scenery. Hell of a lot more fun than being on a boat for a few weeks at a time.

SEAL THE BORDERS NOW! Talk about it later!


15 posted on 05/20/2006 6:35:33 AM PDT by BookaT (My cat's breath smells like cat food!)
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No excuse. This is sick. Court Martial, sentence them...and if they're still alive after their time served, then dishonorably discharge them!!

Your post was SO GOOD, I had to re-post it!!!

16 posted on 05/20/2006 6:38:02 AM PDT by NordP (I want my Country back - it's worth fighting for.)
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To: OldFriend

Note the use of "shipping companies" who complain. As there are damned few American shipping companies, who are they? COSCO (Chinese)?


17 posted on 05/20/2006 6:41:39 AM PDT by gaspar
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That's what I don't get. Aren't these ships delayed for a while before unloading? Up to days, I've heard. It's not like a 80,000t container ship just finds an empty parking spot like at the mall.


18 posted on 05/20/2006 6:48:22 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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"No excuse. This is sick. Court Martial, sentence them...and if they're still alive after their time served, then dishonorably discharge them!!"

YEA! So what if America ceases to be an economic powerhouse, at least we'll be SAFE!!


19 posted on 05/20/2006 6:52:03 AM PDT by VRing (Happiness is a perfect sling bruise.)
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What would they do with the advance notice?

That's the interesting question. Could the crew just run away?

20 posted on 05/20/2006 6:52:25 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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