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Burned out by butt-inskis
Boston Herald.com ^ | May 20, 2006 | Michael Siegel

Posted on 05/21/2006 4:00:08 AM PDT by SheLion

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To: Tax-chick
If smoking makes health care more costly then health care cost should be at their lowest historical rates since the 50's, since smoking has decreased per capita since then.

I put that in bold so it would catch the eye.  But you know what I mean.  Smoking has reported to have dropped over the years, so blaming higher health care on smokers shouldn't be the problem anymore.

It's all the illegal aliens that our hospitals have to treat that is forcing us to have higher health care costs.

21 posted on 05/21/2006 5:21:44 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: SheLion
"...What comes next?..."

I'm sure the Anti's would like to take a page form the Iranians and pass a law to make smokers wear a special patch or armband to designate them in public.

Also, when smokers are kicked out of their apartments, home (by lenders), and such ... will we begin to see "Smoker Ghettos" reminiscent of Warsaw in the 1940's?
22 posted on 05/21/2006 5:22:11 AM PDT by MaDeuce (Do it to them, before they do it to you! (MaDuce = M2HB .50 BMG))
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To: MaDuce
Also, when smokers are kicked out of their apartments, home (by lenders), and such ... will we begin to see "Smoker Ghettos" reminiscent of Warsaw in the 1940's?

Oh my, what a horrible thought!

23 posted on 05/21/2006 5:23:38 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: SheLion

ping


24 posted on 05/21/2006 5:27:49 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Here come I, gravitas in tow.)
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To: SheLion

Love the T-shirt!


25 posted on 05/21/2006 5:28:39 AM PDT by fanfan (I mean, I wouldn't be so angry with them if they didn't want to kill me!)
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To: fanfan
Love the T-shirt!

Hehe!  I have had this photo for quite awhile and I got it in here.  I can't remember who first used it. :)

26 posted on 05/21/2006 5:32:02 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: SheLion

That's a good point in the aggregate; however, in terms of an individual employer's group health insurance costs, smoking or nonsmoking could be a significant factor.


27 posted on 05/21/2006 5:40:25 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Knights of Columbus martyrs of Mexico, pray for us! Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: secret garden

That would be an even better reason for employees to support health savings accounts and other employment-independent options.


28 posted on 05/21/2006 5:42:33 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Knights of Columbus martyrs of Mexico, pray for us! Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: Black Birch
People don't like change. The only way to get them to accept an idea is to promise them more unfortunately.

I fear you are right.

29 posted on 05/21/2006 5:44:02 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Knights of Columbus martyrs of Mexico, pray for us! Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: SheLion

Then why don't we just ostracize the anti-smoking nazis?


30 posted on 05/21/2006 6:23:11 AM PDT by freekitty
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To: freekitty

After all they are just the pimps of anti-freedom.


31 posted on 05/21/2006 6:24:57 AM PDT by freekitty
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Then why don't we just ostracize the anti-smoking nazis?

Because they are highly paid anti's with a whole lot more money then us.  And they are being paid out of the taxes smoker's pay on cigarettes.

Smokers are paying for their own personal abuse in all of this.  Nuts, eh?

32 posted on 05/21/2006 6:41:02 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: Tax-chick
I fear you are right.

I'd go with a HSA and a high deductible since I've quit smoking, but there is no way the overweight people I work with would stand for it. They have high blood pressure, diabetes, joint problems and etc. They are constantly going to the doctor.

33 posted on 05/21/2006 6:42:39 AM PDT by EVO X
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To: Black Birch

I have babies all the time :-).

People would take better care of themselves, use prescription drugs more wisely, etc., if they were responsible for a greater portion of the cost. Unfortunately, because decisions have been taken from the consumer, people seem to think that "health insurance" means anything you want, and somebody else pays.

I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir, here!


34 posted on 05/21/2006 6:53:43 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Knights of Columbus martyrs of Mexico, pray for us! Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: SheLion
"The methods are mean-spirited, unsupported by science and attempt to stamp out smoking by punishing and marginalizing smokers. They go too far."

Exactly what I've been saying for YEEEEAAAAARS, something no one needed to convince me of, btw.

Good to hear a doctor say it.

35 posted on 05/21/2006 7:54:04 AM PDT by TAdams8591
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To: Tax-chick
"I have babies all the time :-)."

Yeah, we know.

36 posted on 05/21/2006 7:55:21 AM PDT by TAdams8591
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To: SheLion

I like the t-shirt.


37 posted on 05/21/2006 7:58:03 AM PDT by proudofthesouth (Mao said that power comes at the point of a rifle; I say FREEDOM does.)
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Love the T-shirt!

Hehe!  I have had this photo for quite awhile and I got it in here.  I can't remember who first used it. :)


38 posted on 05/21/2006 8:22:14 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: TAdams8591
Good to hear a doctor say it.

Right.  Even the medical field is getting sick and tired of this junk.

39 posted on 05/21/2006 8:23:25 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: Lou Foxwell
Part of that satisfaction is akin to punching certain puritans in the nose.

The only thing between me and your taking Mr. Toad's Wild Ride to the hospital is this cigarette.

40 posted on 05/21/2006 8:26:04 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (ISLAM: The Other Psychosis)
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