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HILLARY. New York state has embraced her. Will the rest of the country if she runs for president?
The Chicago Tribune ^ | May 21, 2006 | Lisa Anderson

Posted on 05/21/2006 8:31:39 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement

ELMIRA, N.Y. -- As "New York, New York" so famously promises, if you can make it there you can make it anywhere. Hillary Rodham Clinton may soon put those lyrics to a presidential test.

With little question that she will win re-election to the Senate this fall, a larger question looms: If Clinton turned numbers of skeptical and sometimes openly hostile upstate New Yorkers significantly in her favor, could she pull off the same thing nationally in a 2008 run for the White House?

Seven years ago, when she began her Senate campaign, many residents of this hard-pressed Finger Lakes region considered Clinton the political equivalent of the Wicked Witch of the West. Older women, particularly, acidly criticized her as domineering, arrogant, ambitious and oblivious to blue-collar concerns--not to mention unable to rein in her philandering husband.

During her first term as the state's junior U.S. senator, Clinton hardly has morphed into Glinda, the Good Witch of the North. But the Democrat has shed much of her image as a broom-riding carpetbagger and gained more than a little respect and appreciation in some of the most conservative corners of the state.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: billygoatswife; clinton; craiglivingstone; hillary; hillary2008; hillaryclinton; lesbianqueen; pilesofbodies; rosiespal; vincefoster; whereschelsea
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

Yeah! The idiots have embraced her like the tar baby!


61 posted on 05/21/2006 12:29:49 PM PDT by jslade (Liberalism ALWAYS accomplishes the exact opposite of it's stated intent!)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
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62 posted on 05/21/2006 12:42:44 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.)
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To: Raycpa
Unfortunately, I would vote for Hillary 10 times before voting for McCain once.

You are the problem, not Hillary Clinton!

Talk about insanely confused!...

63 posted on 05/21/2006 1:13:48 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan; ntnychik; devolve; PhilDragoo; Smartass; bitt

64 posted on 05/21/2006 2:57:30 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: new yorker 77

Please give your thoughts on how she can be defeated in 2008.

Keep in mind this creature is able to galvanize the scornful side of women, is able to manipulate the press like no other, and seems to gain support when 'the vast right-wing conspiracy' attack her character.

How to overcome her?

Also keep in mind she controls one of the largest union pension funds in the world, that of the government education union.


65 posted on 05/21/2006 3:55:29 PM PDT by Hostage
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan; All

No heterosexual man will EVER vote for hitlary.

(Democrat? I didn't know you were a homosexual!)


66 posted on 05/21/2006 3:55:47 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Dick Vomer

FWIW, NYS is made up of mostly red counties :)


67 posted on 05/21/2006 3:56:29 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: AmericaUnited

Hillary may be evil but at least she is not insane like McCain.


68 posted on 05/21/2006 5:30:53 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Raycpa

I'll vote for 1/2 insane, 1/4 conservative over 100% pure unadulterated EVIL and 100% pure SOCIALIST any day.


69 posted on 05/21/2006 7:51:29 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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70 posted on 05/22/2006 1:16:17 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo

Good one Phil!


71 posted on 05/22/2006 3:32:09 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

Maybe. Can a chokehold be considered an embrace?


72 posted on 05/22/2006 3:33:51 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: new yorker 77; PhilDragoo; potlatch; devolve; Smartass

I attended one of her "listening tour" sessions when she was running for Senate in 2000. I never saw a more orchestrated event. College students told her about their volunteering activities, and she nodded like a bobblehead. About ten minutes into her half hour speech, her audience began to leave. Half the crowd was gone while she was still speaking. I think people came to see a person they'd seen on TV. At the end, she came down near the door, alone, to greet the crowd, yet she made no conversation, nor effort to shake hands. Everyone in front of me merely exited, and she stood there behind her expressionless mask. It was very weird.

The evening's TV coverage grossly exaggerated both the size and temperament of the crowd. The next day's newspaper article bore no resemblance to the event I witnessed.

If she's re-elected, it will be due to the NY GOP party's failure to use the six years it has had to find any kind of credible candidate.


73 posted on 05/22/2006 9:07:02 PM PDT by ntnychik
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74 posted on 05/22/2006 9:08:11 PM PDT by knyteflyte3
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To: ntnychik

If I were to guess I'd say that underneath it all she is not a happy person.

She is powerful and people cater to her but she must know she is not likable.


75 posted on 05/22/2006 9:12:52 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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76 posted on 05/22/2006 9:19:53 PM PDT by Smartass (Vaya con Dios - And forgive us our trash baskets as we forgive those who put trash in our baskets)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

I wouldn't lay money that she'd win NY again. Upstaters hate her.


77 posted on 05/22/2006 9:21:28 PM PDT by Fruitbat
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To: Raycpa
Unfortunately, I would vote for Hillary 10 times before voting for McCain once.

Say again!

I might abstain, but I will never in my life ever pull a lever for a Dim.

78 posted on 05/22/2006 9:22:55 PM PDT by Fruitbat
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To: David Allen
When she says "our Lord," you know she doesn't mean it.

When does she mean what she says. LOL

79 posted on 05/22/2006 9:25:05 PM PDT by Fruitbat
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To: ntnychik
I remember hearing about her march in a St. Patricks Day Parade and they said the cameras stayed in really tight to make it look like she had a huge, adoring, crowd -- when it was quite the opposite.

Yet, NY elected her. Go figure.

80 posted on 05/22/2006 9:25:23 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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