[Ranger Drew]

I just think folks ought to wait a bit and see before they offhandedly bash everything.

Oh, wait, this is Free Republic.

NEVERMIND.

[floridaobserver]

How many of you have taken the time to look at the CNN video?

[Steely Tom]

I just think folks ought to wait a bit and see before they offhandedly bash everything.

I can't speak for anyone but myself, but a close friend e-mailed me this guy's pitch last week and asked me if he (my friend) should invest in this "cold flame that can melt tungsten" guy. I checked it out at some length, after first watching his video. And having done so, I can say, in all confidence, and with essentially zero chance of being wrong, now, and forever, that this... is... a...

Scam.

[proud_yank]

I just think folks ought to wait a bit and see before they offhandedly bash everything.

This thread has certainly earned it. I don't know how many other engineers are here, but being one myself I'd say that there is nothing remotely true or scientifically sound in this. IMO, this sets an even lower bar for CNN.

[Leatherneck_MT]

"I just think folks ought to wait a bit and see before they offhandedly bash everything."

Idiots often engage their mouth before putting thier brain into gear.

Thank God people on this forum weren't inventing things over the last few thousand years.

We'd still be eating berries and hiding from saber tooths.

[Constantine XIII]

It is fairly easy to explain why this won't work.

Energy released from a chemical reaction can be easily calcuated by measuring the change in enthalpy (internal energy plus system pressure times system volume) between the reactants and reaction products. Talbes of these values at varying pressures can be easily located, since they are used all the time by chemists and engineers.

In the article, the inventor claims that this "HHO" always reacts with substances so that the substance locally (in the area of the reaction) reaches its melting point. Also, it is clear that the only possible products are metal hydrides, metal oxides, and water vapor.

We can take two metals, such as aluminum and iron, and easily find the delta-H (change in enthalpy) necessary to raise samples of the respective metals to their melting temperatures. This number should be equal to the sum of the enthalpies of "aqualyne" and aluminum/iron, minus the enthalpies of the products.

We can rearrange the equation to find the value of the enthalpy of aqualyne by subtracting the enthalpy of the metal in question, aluminum or tungsten, from the sum of the enthalpies of the products and delta-H.

If we do this, we will get two different values for the enthalpy of aqualyne. This is impossible. Thus, aqualyne is not a real material. :)

[TXnMA]

I just think folks ought to wait a bit and see before they offhandedly bash everything.

Why wait? It has already been posted -- and debunked -- several times here on FR -- including here.

Oh, I almost forgot: "Hello there!"...

[TXnMA]

I just think folks ought to wait a bit and see before they offhandedly bash everything.

Why wait? It has already been posted -- and debunked -- several times here on FR -- including here.      (--Fixed the link--).

Oh, I almost forgot: "Hello there!"...

[I got the rope]

OK...this is my field of expertise!

Let me give a educated wild ass guess about what is going on here.

This is a super-lean burn engine. The hydrogen is being mixed with the 2,2,4 trimethylpentane and n-heptane (gasoline) somehow to not only change the combustion characteristics but improve ignitablity of the fuel in the cylinder.

The air to fuel ratio, compression ratio, and the actual "knock limits" would change.

I suspect that only tiny amounts of H2 are being used in this mixture and the liberated oxygen is being used in the air mixture to form a very "rich" fuel air mixture. The remaining is either being used in a hydrogen fuel cell to make electricity and to reform into water or is just being reformed into water.

There are some other things going on here that I don't quite understand...like the plasma like flame that is created. I only work on coal fired boilers; gas-fired, syngas fired, and #2 and #6 diesel fired engines and turbines.