"Why are we still debating climate change? How soon will we hit peak oil supply? When politics mix with science, what is being brewed? Join speakers from the left & the right, from the lab & the field, from industry & advocacy, as we air the ongoing debate about whether human activity is actually changing the climate of the planet.
From June 2–4, 2006, the Environmental Wars conference will host scientists, writers, environmentalists, and thinkers from all points along the environmental spectrum at the California Institute of Technology for questions, answers, and opinions.
Special Guests: John Stossel, Michael Crichton
Speakers: Gregory Arnold, Jonathan Adler, David Baltimore, Gregory Benford, Brian Fagan, David Goodstein, Paul MacCready, Chris Mooney, Donald Prothero, Tapio Schneider
Could be fun. Crichton should have a few things to say!
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Bump.
Doesn't mean I dont think the greenies aren't exaggerating, but what the heck, going Nuclear is a pretty conservative cause, and it can help solve the problem of global warming, assuming there is one. Its a win/win.
There is an interesting connection between the opening sentences where the author was warned and the closing ones where he now obligingly stands in line.
Oh, his epiphany at the evangelists' hands was also poignant.
Absolute bullshit. The CO2 level has been FAR HIGHER than 550 ppm, and yet global temperatures weren't signficantly higher. The dinosaurs seemed to thrive during the period.
Oh what basis is this moron deciding that 550 ppm is "too warm".
Oh my GOD! I only have 95 years to find a new apartment!! Quickly, let's destroy the economy so that over the next 95 years, the coastline doesn't change!! That way, instead of moving half a billion people, we can just starve them to death!
The same people who believe in global warming also, for the most part, believe that we're soon going to run out of fossil fuels. So, even if it's true, it's only a temporary problem, right?
Now, this is certainly evidence that proves something beyond a doubt.
That's all fine and good, but did Gore cite any controlling legal authority? ;)
The world ran out of coal a few years after WWII. Remember? Book em Dano. Pure scam/B.S.!!! Are these turds being lead to acceptance of world-wide genocide to "save' the earth???
He cites Jared Diamond's "Collapse". That should suffice to show he isn't a serious thinker.
Oh wait...he also says, "My attention was piqued on February 8 when 86 leading evangelical Christians--the last cohort I expected to get on the environmental bandwagon--issued the Evangelical Climate Initiative calling for "national legislation requiring sufficient economy-wide reductions" in carbon emissions."
Ah yes, those climatological experts, "86 leading evangelical Christians". So why am I not convinced?
Well I'm impressed - NOT!! Where's the barf alert!
Let's see, he got his mind changed by the Evangelical Christians (I wonder if he now believes in Intelligent Design also), Algore (the inventor of the internet), an archaelogist, a journalist, and a biologist - all objective climate experts, I'm sure...
And who the hell is Shermer and why should I care what he thinks??
Anyway, looks like their anxiety should be significantly eased by the fact that they also believe we're finally (to their great delight) reaching "peak oil".
"Dr. Michael Shermer, the publisher of Skeptic Magazine and author of the bestseller Why People Believe Weird Things, isn't just skeptical about pseudoscience, junk history, and the paranormal. He's apparently also skeptical about government, since he's a libertarian.
Shermer made his political beliefs clear in the November 2004 issue of Reason magazine. While discussing who he planned to support in the presidential election, Shermer said, "I'm a libertarian" -- albeit one who planned to vote for Democrat John Kerry because "Bush's foreign policy is making the world more dangerous and more precarious..."
The planet certainly appears to be getting warmer. It's always either getting warmer or colder. Part of the debate is whether getting warmer is good or bad for civilization. But the larger part of the debate is whether human activity is the major, or even a minor, cause for the current trend.
He doesn't address these debates, so what exactly is his flipping point?
The average temperature of the earth has not warmed over the past 8 years.
So what that means is that even extreme activism won't help, assuming the models are right.
It is time to flip from skepticism to activism.
Fool.
Drive until Greenland is Green again!
So how much CO2 reduction will be the right amount of reduction? If we reduce too much will we cause global cooling? Inquiring minds want to know.
Anthropogenic global warming is less an environmental or even a political phenomenon than a religious one. Look at Al Gore, who's everywhere on television this week. He's got the lunatic intensity of a religious fanatic.