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“Rhythm Method” May Kill Off More Embryos than Other Methods of Contraception
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| 24 May, 2006
| British Medical Journal
Posted on 05/25/2006 9:24:35 AM PDT by gcruse
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To: DogBarkTree
The embryo is a fertilized egg, ready to be implanted, if my recollection holds.
To: trisham
Professor of Economics and Philosophy???Geeze,can't we at least get a degree in Biology in there,never mind a degree in Medicine?
To: gcruse
But says Professor Bovens, it may owe much of its success to the fact that embryos conceived on the fringes of the fertile period are less viable than those conceived towards the middle. "May" ... "might" ... "there's a possibility" ... "we can't know empirically" ... but we'll sure as heck use it to trash those d--n Catholics.
We dont know how much lower embryo viability is outside this fertile period, contends Professor Bovens, but we can calculate that two to three embryos will have died every time the rhythm method results in a pregnancy.
If we don't know how much lower embryo viability is, how can we "calculate" anything?
And is he talking about "the rhythm method" (which nobody has used since the mid-1960's) or sympto-thermal NFP (which is not "the rhythm method")?
This article is what's technically called a large pile of steaming ...
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posted on
05/25/2006 9:34:17 AM PDT
by
Campion
("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
To: AnnaZ
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posted on
05/25/2006 9:34:24 AM PDT
by
trisham
(Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
To: gcruse
embryos conceived on the fringes of the fertile period are less viable than those conceived towards the middle. This is such a lame argument I don't know where to begin. Moreover that Catholic Church's opposition to contraception extends beyond the abortifacient aspects of the pill.
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posted on
05/25/2006 9:34:47 AM PDT
by
ElkGroveDan
(California bashers will be called out)
To: gcruse
"British Medical Journal", figures.
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posted on
05/25/2006 9:35:06 AM PDT
by
zzen01
To: Gay State Conservative
Professor of Economics and Philosophy???Geeze,can't we at least get a degree in Biology in there,never mind a degree in Medicine?****************
No kidding.
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posted on
05/25/2006 9:35:14 AM PDT
by
trisham
(Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
To: DarkSavant
Catholics use Natural Family Planning, not the rhythm method. No kidding, the least he could do is do the five minutes of research required to find that out.
These are supposed to be real researchers and such but they cannot even get the name of the method correct? Please...
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posted on
05/25/2006 9:35:47 AM PDT
by
frogjerk
(LIBERALISM: The perpetual insulting of common sense.)
To: jstassis
Or butchering an embryo to cannibalize cell tissue.
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posted on
05/25/2006 9:35:51 AM PDT
by
weegee
(Slowly but surely and deliberately, converativism is being made a thoughtcrime.)
To: gcruse
He's a professor of philosophy, logic, and scientific method.
He has no applicable credentials in medicine or reproductive biology.
None.
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posted on
05/25/2006 9:37:17 AM PDT
by
Campion
("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
To: Blueflag
Please! THIS REPORT IS FICTION...Why is everyone getting all worked up... ;)
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posted on
05/25/2006 9:38:54 AM PDT
by
frogjerk
(LIBERALISM: The perpetual insulting of common sense.)
To: gcruse
...it may owe much of its success to the fact that embryos conceived on the fringes of the fertile period are less viable than those conceived towards the middle. So where is the problem here?
If this is the case then these embryos are chosen to not survive by their Creator.
Not man.
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posted on
05/25/2006 9:38:59 AM PDT
by
Bloody Sam Roberts
(I can't complain...but sometimes I still do.)
To: ConservativeMind
"This may help Catholics abstain longer to virtually eliminate the chance of killing a fetus. Why take a chance when you are playing with a life?"
Bingo.
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posted on
05/25/2006 9:39:33 AM PDT
by
MeanWestTexan
(Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
To: gcruse
We dont know how much lower embryo viability is outside this fertile period, contends Professor Bovens, but we can calculate that two to three embryos will have died every time the rhythm method results in a pregnancy.Ummm...okay.
To: gov_bean_ counter
Then you know what they call couples who use the rhythm method... Funny. :)
Although, in our case, using Natural Family Planning allowed us to conceive a daughter after suffering three miscarriages. A true miracle!
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posted on
05/25/2006 9:40:20 AM PDT
by
TonyInOhio
(Who's the wildman now?)
To: gcruse
The 'prof4essor' needs to prove there's a connection between abstinence and some mechanism that prevents implantation before he makes such asinine assertions. as the following:
It is believed that the method works because it prevents conception from occurring. But says Professor Bovens, it may owe much of its success to the fact that embryos conceived on the fringes of the fertile period are less viable than those conceived towards the middle. We dont know how much lower embryo viability is outside this fertile period, contends Professor Bovens, but we can calculate that two to three embryos will have died every time the rhythm method results in a pregnancy. What a load of BS! Talk about a missuse of one's science posture ...
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posted on
05/25/2006 9:40:23 AM PDT
by
MHGinTN
(If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
To: jstassis
My rhythm method didn't work too well - kid #3. Might have worked pretty well. Would you be up to kid #8 without it? :-)
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posted on
05/25/2006 9:40:31 AM PDT
by
KarlInOhio
(Never ask a Kennedy if he'll have another drink. It's nobody's business how much he's had already.)
To: Campion
Mel Brooks' History Of The World PT. I
Dole Office Clerk: Occupation?
Comicus: Stand-up philosopher.
Dole Office Clerk: What?
Comicus: Stand-up philosopher. I coalesce the vapors of human existence into a viable and meaningful comprehension. Dole Office Clerk: Oh, a bull**** artist!
Comicus: Hmmmmmm...
Dole Office Clerk: Did you bull**** last week?
Comicus: No.
Dole Office Clerk: Did you try to bull*** last week?
Comicus: Yes!
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posted on
05/25/2006 9:42:23 AM PDT
by
weegee
(Slowly but surely and deliberately, converativism is being made a thoughtcrime.)
To: gcruse
but we can calculate that two to three embryos will have died every time the rhythm method results in a pregnancy. What is the rate for no contraception at all? How often is the egg without implantation and a pregnancy?
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posted on
05/25/2006 9:42:52 AM PDT
by
KarlInOhio
(Never ask a Kennedy if he'll have another drink. It's nobody's business how much he's had already.)
To: TonyInOhio
We used NFP to prevent pregnancy...and twice to cause it.
Thus my nick! :-)
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posted on
05/25/2006 9:44:17 AM PDT
by
2Jedismom
(Life's about changing, nothing ever stays the same)
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