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“Rhythm Method” May Kill Off More Embryos than Other Methods of Contraception
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| 24 May, 2006
| British Medical Journal
Posted on 05/25/2006 9:24:35 AM PDT by gcruse
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To: gcruse
What an idiot.
We dont know how much lower embryo viability is outside this fertile period, contends Professor Bovens, but we can calculate that two to three embryos will have died every time the rhythm method results in a pregnancy He admits they have no actual knowledge if there is a lower embryonic viability or not. But then he calculates (based on what?) that "two to three embryos will have died". That would only take place if 3 or 4 eggs had been impregnated. What an idiot. So obviously biased that only a liberal wouldn't question it.
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posted on
05/25/2006 9:44:34 AM PDT
by
techcor
To: gcruse
Let's see:
Knowingly killing off healthy embryos with artificial birth control is BETTER than using NFP and taking the chance that already unviable embryos might die?
These people wrote a paper with this premise? Are they complete idiots or completely insane????
These people really and truly love death.
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posted on
05/25/2006 9:45:01 AM PDT
by
Zechariah_8_13
(Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
To: SuziQ; RosieCotton
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posted on
05/25/2006 9:45:27 AM PDT
by
2Jedismom
(Life's about changing, nothing ever stays the same)
To: KarlInOhio
What it seems like is that we just don't know what causes pregnancy. There's so much that has to happen in order for the eggs to be fertilized and implanted and then grow. It sounds like a long chain reaction has to happen to result in the birth of a baby.
To: Cubs85
I think you're missing the point, as well as the definition of the word intervention.
Choosing the time to have sex and letting nature take its course is not the same as mechanically ingesting a pill or wearing a device designed to prevent fertilization.
BTW, I'm not Catholic, so I can't weigh in on the whole birth control issue, but it is obvious this researcher has an agenda. If you can't advance your own arguments based on logic, attempt to weaken the other side by manipulation of fact.
The only other comment I have is that I believe human life begins at fertilization when the egg and sperm cease to exist as seperate entities and chemically unite to become something uniquethat is neither- the human zygote. God & nature takes it from there, unless of course we intervene and terminate the human life.
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posted on
05/25/2006 9:52:09 AM PDT
by
Sisku Hanne
(Send "Cut-n-Run" Murtha packing. Support Diana Irey for Congress!)
To: gcruse
It's one thing when nature makes a mistake; it's quite another when you take a morning after pill, intentionally destroying an embryo.
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posted on
05/25/2006 9:53:10 AM PDT
by
JamesP81
To: gcruse
I knew it!!! When you are married, its almost always immoral not to have sex. Now we are really going to outnumber the pagans/abortionists.
/marital indulgence is better than premarital abstinence
//get with it folks
///eagerly waiting for the birth of #8
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posted on
05/25/2006 9:53:24 AM PDT
by
Theophilus
(Abortion = Child Sacrifice = Future Sacrifice)
To: Sisku Hanne
The only other comment I have is that I believe human life begins at fertilization when the egg and sperm cease to exist as seperate entities and chemically unite to become something uniquethat is neither- the human zygote. God & nature takes it from there, unless of course we intervene and terminate the human life.
So you ARE opposed to birth control, then.
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posted on
05/25/2006 9:54:19 AM PDT
by
Zechariah_8_13
(Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
To: gcruse
Bwhahah! The DUmmies are posting on it and buying it hook, line, and sinker. No discussion about him being a doctor of philosophy. Or not having evidence upon which to make his calculations or anything. But then again they probably calculate a woman's cycle in terms of "business" hours. Heh heh. Here's the link.,
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=217x4237
Damn! They have no critical thinking skills whatsoever and fall for anything.
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posted on
05/25/2006 9:55:33 AM PDT
by
techcor
To: gcruse
the rhythm method may well be responsible for massive embryonic death DUMBEST thing ever said!
Embryo is a product of conception. No conception=no embryo. Or are they actually saying an "embryo" is lost every time a woman has a period?
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posted on
05/25/2006 9:56:16 AM PDT
by
Alouette
(Psalms of the Day: 120-134)
To: Zechariah_8_13
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posted on
05/25/2006 9:56:31 AM PDT
by
Sisku Hanne
(Send "Cut-n-Run" Murtha packing. Support Diana Irey for Congress!)
To: gov_bean_ counter
Then you know what they call couples who use the rhythm method...Parents "Couples" are either married or they aren't. If they're married, then they ought to be parents if they're physically able to have kids. And if they aren't married, they should keep it zipped and they don't have to worry about birth control or parenthood.
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posted on
05/25/2006 9:58:47 AM PDT
by
Campion
("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
To: jstassis
LOL
My #4 is result of the 5% who get past the condom.
Should have named her Hercules
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posted on
05/25/2006 9:59:22 AM PDT
by
denfurb
(proud Mama, 6 girls and 1 boy)
To: techcor
Damn! They have no critical thinking skills whatsoever and fall for anything. How do you think they got to be DUmmies in the first place? ;-)
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posted on
05/25/2006 9:59:57 AM PDT
by
Campion
("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
To: gcruse
We dont know how much lower embryo viability is outside this fertile period, contends Professor Bovens, but we can calculate that two to three embryos will have died every time the rhythm method results in a pregnancy.Sophistry Alert! More flatulence from the mouths of "clever" leftists!
To: gcruse
We dont know how much lower embryo viability is outside this fertile period, contends Professor Bovens, but we can calculate need to claim that two to three embryos will have died every time the rhythm method results in a pregnancy so that we can launch a veiled attack on Catholics.There, fixed it.
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posted on
05/25/2006 10:05:33 AM PDT
by
MEGoody
(Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
Comment #57 Removed by Moderator
To: gcruse
Is it not just as callous to organise your sex life to make it harder for a fertilised egg to survive, using this method, as it is to use the coil or the morning after pill, he asks?The short answer is "no".
This genius consciously dismisses the important difference between "natural" and artificial. That is the essence of the difference; there is no active, conscious abortificent employed by the mother.
This is an extremely lame attempt at justification for late term abortion...
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posted on
05/25/2006 10:08:35 AM PDT
by
Publius6961
(Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
To: gcruse
To: Cubs85
How is this better than being on the pill when no egg even comes out.Oh puhleeze. If you abstain from sex, there is no embryo created. If you take the pill, you can prevent an embryo from implanting. There's a huge difference there, but maybe you are as moronic as Bovens and can't figure it out.
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posted on
05/25/2006 10:10:49 AM PDT
by
MEGoody
(Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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