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Experts says Cheney can't avoid testifying
AP on Yahoo ^ | 5/25/06 | Toni Locy - ap

Posted on 05/25/2006 2:27:21 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON - If a prosecutor calls him as a witness, Vice President Dick Cheney probably can't avoid testifying in his former chief of staff's perjury trial, legal experts said Thursday.

"There may be significant issues of executive privilege and significant issues of classified information. But there are obviously significant factual issues that bear on the charges the prosecutor has brought" in the CIA leak investigation, said former federal prosecutor E. Lawrence Barcella Jr.

"So there is a far better than average chance that you are going to see the vice president sitting in the witness chair" if he is summoned, Barcella said.

In a court filing late Wednesday, Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald suggested Cheney would be a logical prosecution witness because he could authenticate notes he jotted on a copy of a New York Times opinion column by a critic of the U.S.-led war in Iraq.

Fitzgerald said Cheney's state of mind at the time he jotted those notes is "directly relevant" to the perjury and obstruction of justice charges against I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, the vice president's former top aide.

Libby faces trial in January on charges that he lied to FBI agents and a federal grand jury about how he learned CIA officer Valerie Plame's identity and what he later told reporters.

But former federal prosecutor Ty Cobb said Fitzgerald's revelation about using Cheney as a witness seems like an act of desperation. "You don't play that card unless you think you are in danger of being shut down," Cobb said.

Cobb said he doubts Libby's case will go to trial because of the enormous amount of classified evidence involved. A key element of Libby's defense is that he was too preoccupied with heady, national security issues to leak Plame's CIA affiliation to reporters as a way to strike back at her husband, former U.S. Ambassador Joseph Wilson, for his criticism of the administration's push to invade Iraq.

Fitzgerald's filing, Cobb said, was a signal to U.S. District Judge Reggie B. Walton, who has expressed concern about the amount of classified information the prosecutor may try to keep Libby from using in his defense.

"Now Fitzgerald's pitch is, 'This goes all the way up in the White House. Judge, don't shut me down,'" Cobb said.

The prosecutor has already raised the possibility that Libby's lawyers are trying to commit "graymail," a term used to describe how former government officials force the government to dismiss their cases or see its biggest secrets revealed during their trials.

White House spokesman Tony Snow referred questions about Cheney's possible testimony to the Justice Department, which, in turn, referred reporters to Fitzgerald's office. Randall Samborn, a spokesman for the prosecutor, declined comment.

In the Times op-ed on July 6, 2003, Wilson accused the Bush administration of twisting intelligence on Iraq to justify going to war.

In 2002, the CIA sent Wilson to Niger to determine whether Iraq tried to buy uranium yellowcake from Niger to build a nuclear weapon. Wilson discounted the reports. But a version of the allegation, attributed to British intelligence, wound up in President Bush's State of the Union address in 2003.

Cheney wrote on the article, "Have they done this sort of thing before? Send an ambassador to answer a question? Do we ordinarily send people out pro bono to work for us? Or did his wife send him on a junket?"

Libby told a grand jury that Cheney was so agitated about Wilson's allegations that they discussed them daily after the article appeared.

Eight days after Wilson's article, syndicated columnist Robert Novak identified Plame and suggested that she had played a role in the CIA's decision to send Wilson to Niger.

Fitzgerald wants to use Cheney's notes on the Wilson article to corroborate evidence that he says shows Libby knew about Plame's CIA status — from Cheney and other government officials — and lied when he told a grand jury that he learned about her from reporters.

Cheney would have a tough time arguing that his notes on Wilson's article qualify as a national security secret, said attorney Stanley M. Brand, a former general counsel to the U.S. House of Representatives.

"He's commenting on something he read in the press, and that is hardly a national security issue," Brand said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: avoid; cheney; cialeak; experts; libby; plame; scooterlibby; testifying; wasteoftaxmoney

1 posted on 05/25/2006 2:27:22 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Too bad Cheney isn't a member of Congress.......


2 posted on 05/25/2006 2:29:06 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (What is is about "illegal" you don't understand?)
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To: NormsRevenge
With glee, Mr FitzMas, uh, Mr Fitzgerald, with glee.


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3 posted on 05/25/2006 2:29:39 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - "The Road to Peace in the Middle East runs thru Damascus.")
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"He's commenting on something he read in the press, and that is hardly a national security issue," Brand said.

This guy must not keep up with current events. The press (especially the NY Slimes) is the best place to go if you want to find potentially damaging national security secrets.

4 posted on 05/25/2006 2:32:59 PM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: NormsRevenge

Oh Fitzgerald, go home already would you you tiresome man? You've become more obsessive than Inspector Javallier in "Les Miserable." This is nothing more than the revealing of a pencil pusher in Langley's identity, which was already the worst kept secret in D.C., being revealed. She had no cover nor covert status. Now go away Mr. Obsessive. You've wasted enough of my money. (Why no weekly tallies from the news media on the cost of this pointless investigation like they did with Ken Starr's?)


5 posted on 05/25/2006 2:35:59 PM PDT by MikeA (Not voting in November because you're pouting is a vote for Nancy Pelosi for Speaker of the House)
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To: NormsRevenge
Experts says Cheney can't avoid testifying

AP is illiterate.

6 posted on 05/25/2006 2:37:38 PM PDT by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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To: atomicpossum

Well we know experts are never wrong.


7 posted on 05/25/2006 2:40:48 PM PDT by Patrick1
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To: atomicpossum

duly noted. posted as found


8 posted on 05/25/2006 2:42:47 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - "The Road to Peace in the Middle East runs thru Damascus.")
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To: NormsRevenge
Fitzgerald said Cheney's state of mind at the time he jotted those notes is "directly relevant" to the perjury and obstruction of justice charges against I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, the vice president's former top aide.

Hmmmmm? How can there be an "obstruction of justice" charge if there was no crime?

9 posted on 05/25/2006 2:47:44 PM PDT by demlosers
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To: NormsRevenge

"Experts," eh? Barcella's bio carefully omits who appointed him to what jobs in the government.

But it contains this little nugget: "His Congressional and judicial experience includes serving as Chief Counsel to the U.S. House of Representatives “October Surprise” Task Force and as Special Master to two federal judges regarding sensitive law office search issues."

This was the House inquisition into Ronald Reagan's supposed dealings with the Iranian Mullahs in the last year of Carter's term in office. Frankly, Jimmy Carter was ENTIRELY responsible for the mess in Iran and the Hostage Crisis. We are still dealing with the dangerous fallout from his stupidity. But this "expert" was one of the guys who tried to pin the blame on Reagan, apparently. In fact, he was apparently the head guy in this witch hunt.

In other words, he is yet another DNC hack.


10 posted on 05/25/2006 2:51:32 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: NormsRevenge
Just how the VP's state of mind would impact the jury in Libby's perjury trial escapes me.
11 posted on 05/25/2006 3:12:19 PM PDT by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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"He's commenting on something he read in the press, and that is hardly a national security issue," Brand said.

Exactly. Once Wilson went public his wife's status was open.

12 posted on 05/25/2006 3:30:14 PM PDT by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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