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What the Base Thinks [about illegal immigration]
Powerline ^ | May 25, 2006 | John Hinderaker

Posted on 05/26/2006 8:08:46 AM PDT by Tirian

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To: Wallace T.
Not sure why your tome was posted to me, seeing as I abhor the Senate bill, and have written and called our two RINO Senators who voted for it expressing indignation.

We have also called our Congressman saying that they had better not buckle to the Senate version of the bill.

181 posted on 05/29/2006 11:03:42 AM PDT by ohioWfan (When the 'base' and DU are in agreement about the President, the problem is not with him.)
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To: ohioWfan
[ Oh.......hoser, I didn't know you were a mysogynist on top of all your other emotional problems. ]

Thats a little better.. I'm fer ya deary..
Is a mysogynist some kind of a female doctor?..

182 posted on 05/29/2006 11:21:44 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: ohioWfan
Good for you for contacting your Senators and Congressman.

However, your denunciation of the opponents of the bill who have spilled over into attacks on the President is misguided. To give an analogy, most military historians regard Robert E. Lee as a good general, but his disastrous mistake in having General Pickett assault the Union forces in a direct attack lost the Battle of Gettysburg and eventually the Civil War for the South. Irrespective of the good that President Bush has done, his proposals in the area of immigration are as dangerous and ill-conceived as was Pickett's Charge. If conservatives suspect the President of a hidden agenda in this matter, their suspicions are understandable because of the extremely high stakes in this legislation. It is not about bridges in Alaska or whether we build a new weapons system, but the political balance in this nation for several generations and the strong potential for the fulfillment of all liberal political dreams, not to mention the added burdens of higher taxes to support the increased social service needs of the immigrants.

The stakes are too high to allow for compromise in this matter. The borders must be protected and the existing laws against illegals and their employers enforced. There must be no deal on the issue of moving illegals to citizenship or permitting tens of millions of foreigners to come to our shores.

183 posted on 05/29/2006 11:23:09 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: hosepipe
No. It's someone so morally confused that he thinks President Bush is evil.

Look it up.

184 posted on 05/29/2006 11:33:17 AM PDT by ohioWfan (When the 'base' and DU are in agreement about the President, the problem is not with him.)
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To: hosepipe
btw, you and I are stars at Liberty Post, where the crazies who get banned from FR dwell.

Doesn't that make you feel kinda proud?

(btw, YOU are the good guy there, and I am the object of their mockery........altogether fitting, IMO).

185 posted on 05/29/2006 11:40:20 AM PDT by ohioWfan (When the 'base' and DU are in agreement about the President, the problem is not with him.)
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To: ohioWfan
[ No. It's someone so morally confused that he thinks President Bush is evil. ]

AMNESTY for 20 plus million brand new democrats is NOT EVIL!!?..
(shineing fingernails)..
You really must get your grits checked..

186 posted on 05/29/2006 11:41:16 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: ohioWfan
[ btw, you and I are stars at Liberty Post, where the crazies who get banned from FR dwell. / Doesn't that make you feel kinda proud? ]

So THEN,, we're a TEAM?...
Usually most RINOs charge me with being a DU troll..
If a Moonbat had any sense they wouldn't even BE a democrat or RINO(same thing).. RINO being a democrat with a little couth..

RINOS being worse because they are turncoats, at least a democrat is actively(maybe), honestly, proudly a malefactor.. i.e. EVIL.. RINOS are sneaky.. you know like Bush..

187 posted on 05/29/2006 11:51:55 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: hosepipe
People are not evil because they disagree with you, hoser.

Now, as pleasant as this has been, it's Memorial Day, and I'm spending time with an Iraqi Freedom veteran.

God bless our troops...........remembering those who have given their lives for our freedom, and honoring those who have sacrificed their freedom for our safety and protection.

And may God richly bless our honorable, GOOD Commander in Chief!

188 posted on 05/29/2006 11:55:44 AM PDT by ohioWfan (When the 'base' and DU are in agreement about the President, the problem is not with him.)
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To: hosepipe
AMNESTY for 20 plus million brand new democrats is NOT EVIL!!?..

The Senate bill raises the green card quotas?

189 posted on 05/29/2006 11:58:15 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: ohioWfan
[ Now, as pleasant as this has been, it's Memorial Day, and I'm spending time with an Iraqi Freedom veteran. ]

Cool go for it deary.. ((( KISS ))..
Who loves ya baby?.. - Kojak..

190 posted on 05/29/2006 11:58:59 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: FreeReign
AMNESTY for 20 plus million brand new democrats is NOT EVIL!!?.. / The Senate bill raises the green card quotas?

I know... {spit}.. I'm mad now.. and will not be receptive when President Bush comes to my door BEGGING for FORGIVENESS... ;^}

191 posted on 05/29/2006 12:02:07 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: hosepipe
LOTS of people love me, hoser, including my Creator and His Son, an adorable husband, a great big family, and loads of Christian friends.

That's why I'm such a contented kid. :)

192 posted on 05/29/2006 12:10:14 PM PDT by ohioWfan (When the 'base' and DU are in agreement about the President, the problem is not with him.)
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To: ohioWfan
[ That's why I'm such a contented kid. :) ]

Well la de dah.. {spills tomato juice on fans shoes}
excuuuuse ME... ;)

193 posted on 05/29/2006 12:17:22 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: hosepipe
The Senate bill raises the green card quotas?

AMNESTY for 20 plus million brand new democrats is NOT EVIL!!?..

Your answer doesn't follow from what I just asked you.

I don't know what the hell you just read into my question (I'm not for the senate bill, BTW)

I'll ask the simple question again. Does the senate bill raise quota limits?

194 posted on 05/29/2006 12:17:32 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: ohioWfan
Having integrity. Yes, in comparison to Clinton, President Bush does have integrity.

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Protecting the country... hmmm, isn't that part of the oath of office? Merely follow the oath is worthy of respect in your mind?

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Leading the troops with honor and moral governance are minimum standards for the job of President.

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Nominating conservative judges... Conservatives had to hold his feet to the fire for that to happen. Perhaps you found Harriet Miers to be a paragon of conservatism?

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Getting the economy to boom... is what all President's want, conservative OR liberal.

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Being our CinC in time of war is not merely something a President does... it is something that is forced upon him.

Presidents do not make war simply to placate their political followers.

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Again, what has President Bush done in his second term to warrant our respect? In many Conservatives view, he has squandered all the respect he's earn in his first term pursuing goals that are very liberal.
195 posted on 05/29/2006 12:25:45 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (I criticize everyone... and then breath some radioactive fire and stomp on things.)
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To: FreeReign
[ Your answer doesn't follow from what I just asked you. ]

Oh! it was a question? AND NOT A RHETORICAL QUESTION.. I SEE..

The Senate Bull Bill.. Is the Senate democrats version of a democrat party membership campaign.. The House Bill is the canard to make it seem like the republican party is in charge... The eventual outcome will be a hidden democrat party membership campaign.. You know bi-partisan..

196 posted on 05/29/2006 12:26:20 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: hosepipe
That's what bugs you about me, isn't it, hoser? I'm at peace.

Last post..........brats and potato salad coming up soon. Vet son LOVES the potato salad, so I made plenty.

God bless our troops, and God bless our Commander in Chief! May we treat him with the respect he deserves during this time of WAR.

Bye, hoser. Hope you have a good day.

197 posted on 05/29/2006 12:28:33 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: hosepipe

Look, my question wasn't rhetorical.

I haven't read through the entire Senate bill because I believe in enforcement first, so I don't know the answer to my question.

But it was you who said that we would have 20 million citizens who vote Democrat above and beyond the current quotas per year. So I figured you would know how much the Senate bill raises the quotas.

The question remains:Does the senate bill raise quota limits? If so how much?

198 posted on 05/29/2006 12:40:03 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: hosepipe

LOL!


199 posted on 05/29/2006 12:50:00 PM PDT by dennisw (We should return to calling them Muhammadans -- Worshipers of Muhammad and maybe Allah)
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To: FreeReign
[ Me:I'll ask the simple question again. Does the senate bill raise quota limits? ]

Quota limits obscures immigration creep..

(A) The legalized aliens and/or new citizens being able to import others in their familys.. and those others imported... importing yet others.. go to (A)..

I agree with enforcement too.. except I'm for draconian enforcement.. to send a message..

200 posted on 05/29/2006 12:53:40 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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