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To: Rapscallion; Liz
deliberate act of defiance of the people who elected them

Their outright defiance is a measure of how confident they are that there will be no effective retribution. If you've ever had experience negotiating, you know the best negotiator is someone who has nothing to lose.

We should be alarmed not only by the sheer defiance of the Senate bill, but by the underlying reasons for their confidence. That's the most frightening aspect.

31 posted on 05/26/2006 8:48:53 AM PDT by lemura
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OUTRAGE ALERT: Part of the 423 pp Senate bill offers help to protect Mexico's southern border. Look at section 114 of the bill: SEC. 114. IMPROVING THE SECURITY OF MEXICO'S SOUTHERN BORDER.

(a) Technical Assistance- The Secretary of State, in coordination with the Secretary, shall work to cooperate with the head of Foreign Affairs Canada and the appropriate officials of the Government of Mexico to establish a program--
(1) to assess the specific needs of Guatemala and Belize in maintaining the security of the international borders of such countries;
(2) to use the assessment made under paragraph (1) to determine the financial and technical support needed by Guatemala and Belize from Canada, Mexico, and the United States to meet such needs;
(3) to provide technical assistance to Guatemala and Belize to promote issuance of secure passports and travel documents by such countries; and
(4) to encourage Guatemala and Belize--

(A) to control alien smuggling and trafficking;


(B) to prevent the use and manufacture of fraudulent travel documents; and

(C) to share relevant information with Mexico, Canada, and the United States.


(b) Border Security for Belize, Guatemala, and Mexico- The Secretary, in consultation with the Secretary of State, shall work to cooperate--
(1) with the appropriate officials of the Government of Guatemala and the Government of Belize to provide law enforcement assistance to Guatemala and Belize that specifically addresses immigration issues to increase the ability of the Government of Guatemala to dismantle human smuggling organizations and gain additional control over the international border between Guatemala and Belize; and
(2) with the appropriate officials of the Government of Belize, the Government of Guatemala, the Government of Mexico, and the governments of neighboring
contiguous countries to establish a program to provide needed equipment, technical assistance, and vehicles to manage, regulate, and patrol the international borders
between Mexico and Guatemala and between Mexico and Belize.


The bill also puts a ten-year statute of limitations on prosecutions for many things, including salvery and trafficking in persons, including: chapters 69 (relating to nationality and citizenship offenses), 75 (relating to passport, visa, and immigration offenses),or 77 relating to peonage, slavery, and trafficking in persons), for an attempt or conspiracy to violate any such section, for a violation of any criminal provision under section 243, 266, 274, 275, 276, 277, or 278 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1253, 1306, 1324, 1325, 1326, 1327, and 1328), or for an attempt or conspiracy to violate any such section.


63 posted on 05/26/2006 11:26:03 AM PDT by Liz (The US Constitution is intended to protect the people from the government.)
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To: Defiant; Barney59
We see here in the Senate immigration bill what happens when an arrogant gov't assumes too much power.

It has gone completely unnoticed that the Constitution is intended to protect the people from the government. The gov't acts like it is the reverse equation.

The citizenry does not exist to serve the government.

The Founders intended to protect the people's rights by limiting the powers of government. Any action which is intended to protect the people's interests from an errant government---as in the immigration dilemma---is in keeping with Constitutional imperatives, and is to be applauded.

That the Constitution is intended to protect the people from the government goes unnoticed..........and untaught. Unfortunately, liberal thought police have indoctrinated generations with Marxist/Socialist agit-prop so that many see the gov't as the solution to problems, and work to grant gov't more and more power over the lives of the citizenry.

65 posted on 05/26/2006 11:35:57 AM PDT by Liz (The US Constitution is intended to protect the people from the government.)
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To: lemura

The arguments to justify the bill based on references to past racism and injustices are disingenuous, at best. Our lawmakers can't comprehend that the racism and injustice happened in foreign countries.

Yet, law-abiding Americans are expected to foot the bills for another country's failures.

In passing the bill that excuses all kinds of criminal activity on our shores, the knee-jerk Senate is confusing compassion with tolerance of criminality.


66 posted on 05/26/2006 11:44:21 AM PDT by Liz (The US Constitution is intended to protect the people from the government.)
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