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Not Fit to Shine McCain's Boots
Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | May 26, 2006 | Christine M. Flowers

Posted on 05/26/2006 3:23:30 PM PDT by RWR8189

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To: durasell

Now if they view moderate centrists like McCain etc with such hostility, how much more hostile are they towards really very conservative people like Mark Steyn or Pauline Hanson?


121 posted on 05/28/2006 4:20:02 AM PDT by NZerFromHK (Leftism is like honey mixed with arsenic: initially it tastes good, but that will end up killing you)
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To: RWR8189

Kerrey should resign.


122 posted on 05/28/2006 4:21:43 AM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Enhance Capitol security: Censure Cynthia!)
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To: shooter223

Although I am not a vet, I share your attitude. All those who served are heroes in my book. Yes, some to a greater degree than others, and some are heroes despite their subsequent behavior and the fact that I disagree with their current political positions. But they are heroes.

Including, sir, you. Thank you for your service.


123 posted on 05/28/2006 4:34:31 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: RWR8189
The whole idea of McCain's being a sacred cow is getting on my nerves.

He graduated 894 out of 899. Unlike his father and grandfather, who were admirals, he made it to captain only. Clearly, Navy didn't think much of him and neither should we.

He's a fair game.

124 posted on 05/28/2006 4:36:59 AM PDT by Feldkurat_Katz (What no women’s magazine ever offers to improve is women’s minds - Taki)
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To: jslade
"Hero? Are you kidding. He got his ass shot down. Plus destroyed 4 other navy planes. He did nothing heroic. He was, and is mediocre at best."

Anybody who gets up, puts on his boots and does his best each day to serve his country is a hero. I hope your just trying to be a goof ball and joking around. If you believe what you say than I can only feel sorry for you that you are not able to graciously accept the sacrifice that others have made for you.
125 posted on 05/28/2006 4:51:00 AM PDT by spatso
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To: Bahbah
These sanctimonious youngsters with heads full of mush are disgusting.

Yes they are. I think perhaps we have given them too much credit for maturity just because they are more physically developed at that age than my generation of teens (1950s) was. But we forget that their relatively few real life experiences have not given them a proper perspective of this complicated and often confused world scene in which we all now must live.

A pampered teenage child, which describes most American teens of upscale families, who has never known any hardship more distressing than a dent in his or her Bimmer's fender can't properly appreciate the sacrifices our servicemen and women have made over the years and still make today in order for them to live a privileged and carefree life in a free and prosperous nation.

126 posted on 05/28/2006 5:23:28 AM PDT by epow (Outside of a dog a book is man's best friend, inside a dog it's too dark to read a book, Groucho)
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To: NZerFromHK

Now if they view moderate centrists like McCain etc with such hostility, how much more hostile are they towards really very conservative people like Mark Steyn or Pauline Hanson?



It's no longer a matter of degrees, on either side.


127 posted on 05/28/2006 5:35:59 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: RWR8189
As much as it appalls me, I actually agree somewhat with that leftist twit...

Of course, I would have gone about it completely differently. Simply put, John McCain WAS a war hero, a man who suffered greatly under the gentle ministrations of the people the leftists of the "antiwar" movement cheered on.

However, I refuse to give McCain a pass for the things he's done over the last 30 plus years. Otherwise, we should have done the same for Kerry, who I believe also served in Viet Nam.

Seriously, just because someone serves with honor, even with distinction, doesn't keep them from being scumbags in civilian life.

I would have highlighted his membership in that exclusive club, "The Keating Five," as well as described the McCain/Feingold CFR as the abomination that it is.

Heck, if we really want to give a pass to anyone who serves with honor, or are decorated combat veterans, maybe we should have said, "well, sure, blowing up that federal building in OKC, and killing all those people was a bad thing, but still, Timothy Mcveigh did receive the Bronze Star, so maybe we should give him a pass...

Mark

128 posted on 05/28/2006 5:46:43 AM PDT by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: Lancey Howard
I forget - - who did he rescue? How many fellow warriors did he save? What other heroic deeds did he accomplish? Thanks.

Actually, IIRC, when the NVA learned who they had (and admiral's son), they offered to let him go, and he refused. I believe that's one of the "facts" that many leave out, but I could be wrong about it. There are a lot of misleading "histories" of Viet Nam, and I was only 10 years old when we pulled out.

Mark

129 posted on 05/28/2006 5:50:31 AM PDT by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: RWR8189
One can act honorably in war and still lose their way ethically in later life.

See Duke Cunningham...

130 posted on 05/28/2006 5:57:06 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: durasell

It is true. I remember an anti-Communist talkshow host in Hong Kong who once described US liberals as "hypocrites, naive, and pompous" and dared to claim if one day the US falls it will be the American libs' faults.

And note he is not an American: a HK Chinese, he has never had any ties with the US: he was a Warwick University graduate with diploma from LSE (London School of Economics - an institution that has produced plenty of Afro-Marxists), and worked as a BBC radio station host for some time.


131 posted on 05/28/2006 6:52:47 AM PDT by NZerFromHK (Leftism is like honey mixed with arsenic: initially it tastes good, but that will end up killing you)
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To: Bommer

I read the whole thing and you still say he sucked as a pilot as if that
should exclude him from being a hero. You didn't say bailing out.


132 posted on 05/30/2006 10:21:50 AM PDT by RetiredSWO
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To: RetiredSWO
You didn't read squat! I said he sucked as a pilot and survived torture does not rank up in the realm of the word HEROIC IN THE SAME VEIN AS what an Audey Murphy, George Patton or George Washington did in their heroics.

So please enlighten me how John McCain ranks up there with a Murphy, a Patton or a Washington as a HERO? (this should be good)

133 posted on 05/30/2006 11:49:50 AM PDT by Bommer (Attention illegals: Why don't you do the jobs we can't do? Like fix your own countries problems!)
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