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Marine becomes citizen after 25 years of service
Marine Corps News ^ | Sgt. Robert L. Fisher III

Posted on 05/26/2006 8:00:06 PM PDT by SandRat

MARINE CORPS AIR GROUND COMBAT CENTER TWENTYNINE PALMS, Calif. (May 26, 2006) -- Mexican newspapers inadvertently planted a seed in a small boy, born in 1960 in the town of Cananea, Mexico, not far from the Arizona border.

“In the newspapers in Mexico, they are more graphic than they are here,” said Guadalupe Denogean, a retired master gunnery sergeant. “I couldn’t read, but I could see the pictures.”

So he would ask his brother to read the stories to him, and they were always about the Marines, he said.

As that seed sprouted, Denogean, who moved to the U.S. but was not a legal citizen, chose to join the Marine Corps, fight for and defend the freedom of the United States.

“It was something that was planted way back, and as soon as I turned 17, I signed up,” he said.

During his time as a Marine, he also planted a seed for a simpler immigration process to be used in the military.

As Denogean lay in the National Naval Medical Center at Bethesda, Md., in 2003 from injuries suffered in Iraq, President George Bush, along with several high-ranking officers in the military, came to meet injured service members. The president asked each of them what they would like to see done in the military, said Denogean.

When it was Denogean’s turn, he said he wanted one of his Marines meritoriously promoted for pulling him out of a burning vehicle in Iraq, and he also asked to become a citizen.

The next day, his Marine received a promotion, and three days later, with 25 years of military service, Denogean became a U.S. citizen.

“It used to take two to three years to become a citizen,” he said. “The problem was every time you went to a new station, you submit an application, and you also had to pay the fees. If they called you up and you moved, you lost your money.”

He brought the military’s attention to the current immigration process, and shortly after they began working on ways to improve it.

“I don’t want to say I was the reason, but they didn’t realize what we were going through and why we were not citizens,” he explained. “I was in Desert Storm and I was in Operation Iraqi Freedom, and I guess he [Bush] was impressed. We were in two wars, and we were not citizens. Why are we doing it? For the love of freedom.”

Thanks to the effort of Denogean and service members like him, today, it only takes a service member four to six months to complete their request for U.S. citizenship.

Denogean and his family immigrated to the United States in 1966. Growing up in Nogales, Ariz., he learned English through school but was unable to speak fluently before enlisting in the Marines when he turned 17. Without a full grasp of the English language, he faced many difficulties communicating in Boot Camp.

Even the most basic neccessities were hard to accomplish because of the language barrier, he said.

Regardless of not being a U.S. citizen, Denogean fought for Americans and their ideals — he knew someone had to pay the price for freedom.

“I enjoyed the freedoms that were offered to me and my family,” said Denogean. “For everything you do, there has to be a sacrifice. You have to pay the dues — somebody does.”

He also has a sister, Yolanda Colter, who’s been in the Air Force for more than 28 years. “Between the two of us, we have paid the dues for our family,” he said.

“Freedom is not free,” is a phrase heard often on radio and television and written across car bumper stickers, but this phrase means more to those who weren’t handed freedom, but had to earn it.

“If I give you a car, you’re going to drive it and trash it. If you buy the car and you pay for it, you’ll take care of it. It’s no different with the United States. If it’s just given to you, you’ll take it for granted, but if you pay for it, you’ll understand what it’s all about and you’ll cherish the freedoms that we have,” he said.

While Denogean may not have directly influenced the creation of the easier immigration process the military uses today, his request to President Bush for citizenship certainly sparked an interest in improving it.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: 25; after; becomes; citizen; marine; naturalization; service; years
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1 posted on 05/26/2006 8:00:08 PM PDT by SandRat
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To: 91B; HiJinx; Spiff; MJY1288; xzins; Calpernia; clintonh8r; TEXOKIE; windchime; Grampa Dave; ...

PATRIOT PING


2 posted on 05/26/2006 8:00:42 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat

This is actually something to consider. Illegals who serve in the military (with honor) should be granted citizenship.


3 posted on 05/26/2006 8:04:20 PM PDT by misterrob
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To: SandRat

25 years in the USMC is disgraced by not becoming a US Citizen at an earlier time. I am the son of 1st & 2nd generation legal immigrants and this feel good now, USMC bs is misdirected at best. Blow on big windy...


4 posted on 05/26/2006 8:13:26 PM PDT by Treader (Human convenience is always on the edge of a breakthrough, or a sellout)
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To: misterrob
"This is actually something to consider. Illegals who serve in the military (with honor) should be granted citizenship."

Absolutely! This is what it would mean for We The People to be granted the right to choose guidelines for our immigrants.

This is an example of a highly desireable group of immigrants.

5 posted on 05/26/2006 8:24:29 PM PDT by Nova
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To: Nova
99% of all Americans would agree to grant citizenship to immigrants, legal or otherwise, who demonstrate loyalty to this country by military service.

We would also agree that it is unfair to lump them into the same category as border jumper, welfare cheats and reconquistadoras whose intentions are not honorable.

6 posted on 05/26/2006 8:29:53 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (crime would drop like a sprung trapdoor if we brought back good old-fashioned hangings)
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To: Treader

"25 years in the USMC is disgraced by not becoming a US Citizen at an earlier time"

not sure why you see this as being disgraced, there are a LOT of non-citizens in uniform today. Maybe I do not understand what you are saying about this guy? Are you saying he has disgraced himself?


7 posted on 05/26/2006 8:30:16 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: Nova

So, you believe that after 25 yrs of US MIL service, it is honorable to finally request US Citizenship?


8 posted on 05/26/2006 8:32:12 PM PDT by Treader (Human convenience is always on the edge of a breakthrough, or a sellout)
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To: misterrob
This is actually something to consider. Illegals who serve in the military (with honor) should be granted citizenship.

Yes. It should have happened 21 years ago for this Marine.

9 posted on 05/26/2006 8:35:13 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: WoofDog123

Hey WD123, even the FFLegion demands a declaration of citizenship by the "flagless." That this US Marine could not declare US Citizenship- during or soon after his first enlistment, much less for 25 yrs- is an indisputable travesty of Honor.


10 posted on 05/26/2006 8:43:25 PM PDT by Treader (Human convenience is always on the edge of a breakthrough, or a sellout)
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To: SandRat
I found this odd how would some one that not legally in the country could join up... the I rechecked the article

As that seed sprouted, Denogean, who moved to the U.S. but was not a legal citizen

There playing with semitics to manipulate the reader here... legal aliens are not legal citizen and are not illegal aliens

Legal aliens in the country have away been allowed to join but are not legal citizens

11 posted on 05/26/2006 8:45:12 PM PDT by tophat9000 (If it was illegal French Canadians would La Raza back them? Racist back there race over country)
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To: Treader
He said he was not a legal CITIZEN. He never said anything about being an ILLEGAL ALIEN.

Also if you bothered to read the whole article you would see he applied several times for citizenship which is a lengthy process and would mean he was here legally, but had to start from scratch again everytime he was transferred.

Like too many here if a person is not a citizen you automatically assume because of your tunnel vision they have to be illegal. I lived in the US for many years before I became a citizen.
12 posted on 05/26/2006 8:45:41 PM PDT by AmeriBrit (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS A WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION, IT INCLUDES TERRORIST SLEEPER CELLS!!)
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To: AmeriBrit

Tunnel vision? I am deeply familiar with the Naturalization process, and this article does not describe the reality for foreign born US Military Service Members.


13 posted on 05/26/2006 8:56:31 PM PDT by Treader (Human convenience is always on the edge of a breakthrough, or a sellout)
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To: Treader
The opportunity and invitation was probably extended many years ago, so I can agree with you.

My Wife had a Green Card for the first 9 years of our Marriage, 9 YEARS and THOUSANDS of Dollars before she became a Citizen, and it was not easy, and I was Active Duty at the time, she became a Citizen on the 5th of July (the Courthouse was closed in New Orleans on the 4th) 1990 with 78 other Legal Immigrants, it was quite the Party.

TT
14 posted on 05/26/2006 9:00:58 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: AmeriBrit

lol...when you get off your emotional snit- you will see that I have never referred to this US Marine as an illegal alien. Perhaps then... you will have a cogent point about something remotely related to something, somewhere, sometime about something.


15 posted on 05/26/2006 9:08:52 PM PDT by Treader (Human convenience is always on the edge of a breakthrough, or a sellout)
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To: TexasTransplant

Good to hear from ya, TT. All the best to you and yours, my FRiend.


16 posted on 05/26/2006 9:20:58 PM PDT by Treader (Human convenience is always on the edge of a breakthrough, or a sellout)
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To: Treader

Unfortunately because your writing is unclear, no one can figure out whether you're insulting the Marine in the story, immigrants in general, illegal immigrants, the immigration and naturalization process, the US, or what. If you're going to make a comment, it would be useful to formulate your sentences clearly. As things are, you've simply stirred up ill feeling on the thread.


17 posted on 05/26/2006 9:26:29 PM PDT by Fairview
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To: Fairview

Thanks!


18 posted on 05/26/2006 9:32:13 PM PDT by Treader (Human convenience is always on the edge of a breakthrough, or a sellout)
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To: SandRat

This can't be true. President Bush never visits with the wounded. <*sarcasm off>


19 posted on 05/26/2006 9:36:06 PM PDT by stylin19a (There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't)
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To: SandRat
I went into a Wal-Mart in Texas to buy a 3X5 Texas Flag and an 3X5 American Flag.I have bought both at this Wal-Mart several times. This time no Texas Flag and only 1 American Flag were available but 12 3X5 Mexican Flags were available. The store is not located in a predominantly Mexican American area. I drove around to several Wal-Mart stores today and found a lot of Mexican Flags and American Flags and even a few Texas Flags.
20 posted on 05/26/2006 9:37:17 PM PDT by BellStar (God makes a promise, faith believes it, hope anticipates it, patience quietly awaits it.)
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