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Minutemen building Ariz. border fence (broke ground today)
Yahoo by Associated Press ^ | 05/27/2006 | ARTHUR H. ROTSTEIN

Posted on 05/27/2006 6:09:37 PM PDT by faq

PALOMINAS, Ariz. - Scores of volunteers gathered at a remote ranch Saturday to help a civilian border-patrol group start building a short security fence in hopes of reducing illegal immigration from Mexico.

The Minuteman Civil Defense Corps plans to install a combination of barbed wire, razor wire, and in some spots, steel rail barriers along the 10-mile stretch of private land in southeastern Arizona.

They hope it prompts the federal government to do the same along the entire Arizona border.

President Bush has pledged to deploy as many as 6,000 National Guard troops to strengthen enforcement at the border. The guardsmen would fill in on some behind-the-lines Border Patrol jobs while that agency's force is expanded.

But the Minutemen have said it's not enough. The group's founder, Chris Simcox, said they want a secure fence and they're starting at the site where his first patrols began in November 2002.

Rancher John Ladd and his son, Jack, were hopeful the effort would limit the illegal immigrants and drug runners who have cut the small fence along the property or just driven over it to cross into the U.S.

"We've been fighting this thing for 10 years with the fence, and nobody will do anything," Jack Ladd said.

Most of the day was dedicated to speeches from politicians and Minutemen leaders and celebrating large donations the Minutemen group has been receiving. As of midweek, the group had raised about $225,000 for fence materials and signed up about 1,000 volunteers to work on the project, organizers said.

"We're not going to stop. We're going to stay here with a group and keep building," said Timothy Schwartz of Glendale, Ariz., who was among at least 200 volunteers gathered. He said he wants a fence along the border from California to Texas.

Quetzal Doty of Sun Lakes, Ariz., a retired U.S. diplomatic consular officer, brought his wife, Sandy, to the event.

He said he's convinced the Minutemen and most Americans aren't anti-immigrant.

"They're just anti-illegal," said Doty. "The Minutemen walk the extra mile to avoid being anti-immigrant and that's what we like about the organization and what got us interested."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; borderfence; fence; minutemen
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To: SteveMcKing
That's a pretty good idea you got there Mr. McKing.

You ought to put together an email to Minutemen HQ.

L

22 posted on 05/27/2006 6:47:10 PM PDT by Lurker (Real conservatives oppose the Presidents amnesty proposal. Help make sure it dies in the House.)
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To: Lurker
You ought to put together an email to Minutemen HQ.

Done!

23 posted on 05/27/2006 6:48:16 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: SandRat
It's been awfully dry in that area of late. The NWS has wildfire warnings up for that entire area. It won't take much more than a spark to get things going.

L

24 posted on 05/27/2006 6:48:20 PM PDT by Lurker (Real conservatives oppose the Presidents amnesty proposal. Help make sure it dies in the House.)
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To: SteveMcKing; Rick_Michael
According to the Minuteman web site:
Surveillance cameras on the fencing will be monitored via computer by registered Minutemen across the country.
Read more here: http://www.minutemanhq.com/bf/
25 posted on 05/27/2006 6:50:31 PM PDT by faq
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To: Rick_Michael

Amazing what private enterprise can do.
Here in NY, a a quarter mil wouldn't even pay for the engineering studies, let alone the environmental impact statements and archaeological assessments.
Here, we spend millions on public works projects and never get a shovel in the ground.


26 posted on 05/27/2006 6:54:40 PM PDT by Ostlandr ( CONUS SITREP is foxtrot uniform bravo alfa romeo)
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To: NormsRevenge

I hope they're going to put up more than barbed wire. That won't stop anybody.


27 posted on 05/27/2006 6:57:01 PM PDT by WVNan (Never use the word "you" when debating.)
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To: faq
Looks like what they really need is donations... $150 per foot of fence:


28 posted on 05/27/2006 6:57:13 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: Lurker
Choices are:

  1. Careless Smoke tossed away.
  2. Vehicle parked on high grass or other such combustibles
  3. Illegals having a warming fire to ward off the chill last night and just walking away

ANSWER: May be released this week when the fire is under control

29 posted on 05/27/2006 6:58:32 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: faq
Thanks. I'll be signing up with them.

L

30 posted on 05/27/2006 7:03:02 PM PDT by Lurker (Real conservatives oppose the Presidents amnesty proposal. Help make sure it dies in the House.)
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To: faq

"As of midweek, the group had raised about $225,000 for fence materials"

I support the Minutemen and know that most of this money came in small donations from patriots, many who don't have a lot, but...
Where are the wealthy conservatives? If this was a liberal cause Soros and his ilk would have donated millions. Aren't their wealthy consrvatives anymore? Are they too afraid of offending someone? I would think that a billionaire could go down in history by dropping $10 million or more in the cause of securing our border.
Are the wealthy all one-worlders?


31 posted on 05/27/2006 7:12:54 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: SandRat
Ping me to it when you get an anwer will you please?

Stay safe.

L

32 posted on 05/27/2006 7:15:03 PM PDT by Lurker (Real conservatives oppose the Presidents amnesty proposal. Help make sure it dies in the House.)
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To: faq

bttt


33 posted on 05/27/2006 7:16:18 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: Ostlandr

"Good to hear. American individualism and independence still lives."

Yep!!!

"How long before Mexican soldiers from Grupo Beta come across at night and wreck the fence?"

Private property can be defended. And if they did that, it would rebound to our benefit anyway.


34 posted on 05/27/2006 7:17:09 PM PDT by strategofr (H-mentor:"pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it"Hillary's Secret War,Poe,p.198)
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To: NormsRevenge

Thanks for posting the pics!


35 posted on 05/27/2006 7:17:24 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: SteveMcKing


"The key is this: we need a website where thousands of volunteers would sign up to monitor the cameras. When someone sees movement, they just click a mouse button. Of course a second (and perhaps third) confirmation would be needed- and after that, the location automatically gets reported to local police or border patrol."

Good idea. To add on a bit---there is now some prety good software that can do the "1st cut" monitoring. The software could flag "suspicious" situations. The humans could weed out the false positives. Many less humans needed.


36 posted on 05/27/2006 7:19:51 PM PDT by strategofr (H-mentor:"pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it"Hillary's Secret War,Poe,p.198)
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To: Lurker

When they pronounce it.


37 posted on 05/27/2006 7:20:44 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: NormsRevenge

great pic w- the flags!---a keeper, though a wide-angle would be better. That could make a poster.


38 posted on 05/27/2006 7:21:26 PM PDT by strategofr (H-mentor:"pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it"Hillary's Secret War,Poe,p.198)
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To: faq

Did they "consult" with the Mexican government first?


39 posted on 05/27/2006 7:31:50 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (DemonRATs- the CULTURE OF TREASON!)
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To: faq

Now if we were in DC, this would be an embarrassment....most of the current crowd won't get it.

Bless the volunteers for this project.


40 posted on 05/27/2006 7:31:53 PM PDT by TheLion
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