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EVEREST UPDATE: (David) Sharp unrescuable, says Chinese mountaineer (mom not angry)
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/sports/2006-05/28/content_601895.htm ^ | 5/28/06

Posted on 05/28/2006 6:06:47 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside

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To: R W Reactionairy
OOPS!! I should have read this or any other article on this incident. The route taken was not the the most commonly taken and easier route in any case. This only makes the difficulties associated with getting the man down more problematic.
61 posted on 05/28/2006 3:40:58 PM PDT by R W Reactionairy ("Everyone is entitled to their own opinion ... but not to their own facts" Daniel Patrick Moynihan)
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To: Mr. Brightside
You are about the dimmist bulb I have met on this forum.

I think you're a few watts dimmer.  And, you have no self-control.

You have no trouble accepting as accurate Hilary's quote from a newspaper.

And, you're illiterate as well as childish.

What else might Sir Edmund have meant by his comment? The reporter and maybe the editor only gave what they chose to report about what somebody else said they did or didn't do.

I'd ask whether or not you remember reading that, but you've already demonstrated a propensity for being a tenaciously boring dullard.

But you suspect the authenticity of quotes by the climbrs, WHO ACTUALLY WERE ON THE SCENE, because they are reported in a newspaper.

You must be the family joke.  Can't read.  Can't carry on a civil conversation.  Takes himself entirely too seriously.  And can't tell the difference between a newspaper report and eyewitness testimony. 

But, you are entertaining, sort of.

62 posted on 05/28/2006 3:42:29 PM PDT by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: eddie willers

I remember the pictures of Mallory's body.

It's hard to imagine that after all these years, his body was in such good shape.

BTW, it's interesting to see the respect from posters here for pioneers like Hilary and Mallory, but not for the modern climbers.

I wonder why?


63 posted on 05/28/2006 3:47:02 PM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: Racehorse
The reporter and maybe the editor only gave what they chose to report about what somebody else said they did or didn't do.

Are you always this convoluted?

Anyway, regarding eye witnesses, we know one thing for sure- Hilary is NOT one. Yet you take his word.

64 posted on 05/28/2006 3:53:11 PM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: eddie willers

Any new books (since Thin Air and the Russians account of '96) that you have read?

I would love to read some more.


65 posted on 05/28/2006 3:55:55 PM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: Mr. Brightside
Anyway, regarding eye witnesses, we know one thing for sure- Hilary is NOT one. Yet you take his word.

And when you do get around to reading something which had to be posted twice to you, you don't understand what you're reading.

Just how determined are you to get in the last word? The last exchange went over the number of replies I wagered with myself. We're into bonus points now.

66 posted on 05/28/2006 4:03:16 PM PDT by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: Racehorse
Let's get back where we started.

You said: I chose (sic) Sir Edmund's opinion.

And I said, Go ahead and take the opinion of someone who was not on the scene, did not meet the climber and probably never even climbed this route. Feel free to ignore what the experienced guides have to say- They were only there when it happened.

67 posted on 05/28/2006 4:28:40 PM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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I remember the pictures of Mallory's body.

They were actually looking for (and thought they had found) his climbing partner Sandy Irvine who was believed spotted in 1975 by a Chinese expedition.

It was not until they found a handkerchief monogrammed with GLM and then "George Mallory" on the shirt tag did they know they had found the Holy Grail of Everest instead.

His right leg was broken during the fall and a hobnail boot (!) torn from the other.


68 posted on 05/28/2006 4:37:06 PM PDT by eddie willers
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"My disgust is with the posse that was with him and left him behind."

Sharpe went up by himself, without bringing enough Ox for backup. He was probably the last one to head down that day. He went down and stayed up there overnight and froze. You can't stay up in -22F, 0.3% Ox overnight. You freeze solid. When these folks found him, He could only move his eyelids

Sharpe was well liked and the other folks are always lending aid. They also know when nothing can be done.

69 posted on 05/28/2006 4:43:11 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: eddie willers

OK. That's it!

Off to the bookstore tomorrow to spend some birthday money on some Everest books.


70 posted on 05/28/2006 6:30:41 PM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: Drew68

I have read many books on Everest & my opinion is that westeners & europeans have exploited Everest, sherpas & mountaineering itself for their own selfish reasons. The mountain is littered with garbage that could of & should of been brought back. The idea of people w/no experience putting themselves & others at risk by paying $65,000+ to climb a mountain they have no business being on is appalling.
Rienhold Messner had it right with the philosophy of "by fair means". When I see what Mallory & Irving did compared to todays Bloated Expeditions I just chuckle and roll my eyes. No awe here guys.......


71 posted on 06/05/2006 2:12:20 PM PDT by brahma chopp (an embarrassing high altitude circus show)
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