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Neocons in the Democratic Party (the war between the rats?)
LA Times ^ | 5/28/2006 | Jacob Heilbrunn

Posted on 05/28/2006 6:38:32 AM PDT by Dark Skies

Like Kennedy and Truman, Democratic neocons want to beef up the military and won't run from a fight.

DON'T LOOK now, but neoconservatism is making a comeback — and not among the Republicans who have made it famous but in the Democratic Party.

A host of pundits and young national security experts associated with the party are calling for a return to the Cold War precepts of President Truman to wage a war against terror that New Republic Editor Peter Beinart, in the title of his provocative new book, calls "The Good Fight."

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: beinart; bookreview; dems; thegoodfight

1 posted on 05/28/2006 6:38:34 AM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: Dark Skies

Pfffft... I'll believe it when I see it.

I don't think they would mix with the well established outright commies and socialist factions there.


2 posted on 05/28/2006 6:43:48 AM PDT by FreedomNeocon (Better to take what they can throw at us now,rather than take what they promise to throw at us later)
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To: Dark Skies

If the LA Times said the sun rises in the east, I'd look for it every morning in the west.


3 posted on 05/28/2006 6:45:29 AM PDT by wolfpat (To connect the dots, you have to collect the dots.)
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To: Dark Skies

There are NO Democrat neocons!!


4 posted on 05/28/2006 6:47:00 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: Suzy Quzy

There are a few who support our military. Zell Miller, Joe Lieberman and Ed Koch come to mind but democrats of that stripe are few and far between.


5 posted on 05/28/2006 6:51:16 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Graybeard58

WOW!! THREE Democrats that support our great Military!!! What a horrible joke the Democrat Party today is.


6 posted on 05/28/2006 6:53:59 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: Dark Skies

BTTT


7 posted on 05/28/2006 6:55:06 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Dark Skies
Beinart is remarkably perceptive when it comes to understanding the threat posed by tyrants such as Saddam and by Islamofascism and terrorism (for a Democrat, anyway), although he is still wrong on many counts (he remains a true believer in Socialism, for example, despite its notable and inherent failures). In an earlier generation, there were many like him among the Democrats.

Clearly, when the former Vice Presidential candidate of the party is villified and demonized by such a substantial and vocal portion of the party's fanatical activist base, the party has changed in a very visible way. Bush Derangement Syndrome has replaced what little logic and reason was still left among the Democrat masses...

8 posted on 05/28/2006 6:55:13 AM PDT by The Electrician ("Government is the only enterprise in the world which expands in size when its failures increase.")
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To: Graybeard58

The "mainstream" (far left leadership who are represented as such by the MSM) RATS don't consider them to be "real" Democrats, just as the NAACP does not consider conservative blacks to be "real" blacks!


9 posted on 05/28/2006 6:56:17 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help m)
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To: Dark Skies

Is this an Onion article ???


10 posted on 05/28/2006 7:17:30 AM PDT by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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To: Dark Skies
I think they mean Neocoms (Neo Communists) not Neocons.
11 posted on 05/28/2006 7:17:42 AM PDT by RockyMtnMan
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To: wolfpat

george will wrote recently about beinart and his foreign policy views. i used to get the new republic, and they do tend towards a dem version of neo-conservativism--they tend to support foreign intervention in the middle east.
and moveon is working against lieberman.
there is a battle going on, but it is unclear to me how much power the dem neo-cons have.


12 posted on 05/28/2006 7:21:15 AM PDT by drhogan (!)
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To: drhogan

Anyone who does not stick to the hardline liberal agenda will be thrown overboard. Deviation is not allowed. Look at Hillary Clinton, even the tinfoil hatters are turning against her.


13 posted on 05/28/2006 7:33:47 AM PDT by WatchYourself
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To: Suzy Quzy

Aren't they called neorats?


14 posted on 05/28/2006 8:13:25 AM PDT by TennTuxedo
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To: JimRed
Real Democrats:

Ice Jefferson
Jihad Cindy McKinney
Patches Kennedy

Three criminals who are being harboured in the U.S Congress.
There can be no meaningful legislation on any issue until U.S. AG Alberto Gonzalez and the federal policing agencies go in there and clean it up. Richard Nixon seems to be the last man who was held to the "no one is above the law" standard in Washington.
15 posted on 05/28/2006 8:56:29 AM PDT by ishabibble
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To: Dark Skies

Well it would be nice to know that there are people on the other side that aren't traitors,commies,cowards,and surrender monkeys. However even if there is a crowd of scoop Jackson democrats out there they are not long for this world. Look at the tar and feathering of one of the last electable democrats Joe Lieberman. Nope no comeback of liberal hawks anytime soon, just a few post mortum twitches.


16 posted on 05/28/2006 9:56:08 AM PDT by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by there fruity little club.)
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To: Suzy Quzy

Reference to Liberman? or are they using the Reagan's definition of "NeoCon".


17 posted on 05/29/2006 1:03:50 AM PDT by Wiz
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To: Dark Skies; ninenot; sittnick; steve50; Hegemony Cricket; Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; FITZ; ...
[Dark Skies:] the war between the rats?

Not rats but the cats. Read this:
Cats have the seemingly unique ability to orient themselves in a fall

Neo"conservatives" will stay at the top.


18 posted on 05/29/2006 6:17:07 AM PDT by A. Pole (Rubicon: the border between Republic and Empire(www.unrv.com/fall-republic/crossing-the-rubicon.php))
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To: A. Pole
TFP.

Neocons have one thing in mind - to control the foreign policy of both parties. A prior generation of today's neocons successfully rode the Communism wagon as Democrats for the internationalist vehicle. When the red wagon ran out of drive, they successfully crossdressed as Conservatives and used market capitalism to control foreign policy. Their hold on the GOP is strong. Now they sense that the Democrats may jump their internationalist bent and hasten to return to right that ship. All your USA foreign policy 'belong to them'.

19 posted on 05/29/2006 12:10:49 PM PDT by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: Dark Skies
The term "NeoCon" is pejorative used to reference members of the Bush Administration and supporters who happen to be Jewish (Wolfowitz, Perle, Kristol, Sharansky, Krauthammer, Novak etc..).

Now the term "Israel Lobby" is being used interchangeably. Only a few more years and they'll just come out and say what they really mean.
20 posted on 05/29/2006 12:23:48 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Minus_The_Bear
The term "NeoCon" is pejorative used to reference members of the Bush Administration and supporters who happen to be Jewish (Wolfowitz, Perle, Kristol, Sharansky, Krauthammer, Novak etc..).

I did not know that Krauthammer and Novak are Jewish. Are you sure that there are no non-Jewish neoconservatives?

21 posted on 05/29/2006 12:40:57 PM PDT by A. Pole (Solzhenitsyn:"Live Not By Lies" www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/ arch/solzhenitsyn/livenotbylies.html)
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