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The Troops Have Moved On
The New York Times ^ | May 29, 2006 | Owen West

Posted on 05/29/2006 7:52:23 AM PDT by 11B Warrior

We are at the outset of a long war, and not just in Iraq. Yet it is being led politically by the short-sighted, from both sides of the aisle. The deterioration of American support for the mission in Iraq is indicative not so much of our military conduct there, where real gains are coming slowly but steadily, but of chaotic leadership.

Somehow Operation Iraqi Freedom, not a large war by America's historical standards, has blossomed into a crisis of expectations that threatens our ability to react to future threats with a fist instead of five fingers. Instead of rallying we are squabbling, even as the slow fuse burns.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; freedom; globalwaronterror; iraq; marine; memerialday; troops; veterans; vets
THE MOST IMPORTANT OP-ED ABOUT THE GLOBAL WAR ON TERROR! Owen West, a Marine Iraq Vet, and the founder of a really interesting group called Vets for Freedom, writes about how the short-sighted American media and politicians are completely inept at dealing with this war in a rational, mature manner. The big shocker is that the New York Times published it. This is a "must read" if you care about winning this war. Owen West puts the conflict in persective. Slam Dunk!
1 posted on 05/29/2006 7:52:27 AM PDT by 11B Warrior
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To: 11B Warrior
That's a solid article. Thx for posting it.

With regard to the following...

As Kipling wrote, "The strength of the pack is the wolf."
...I would submit that the strength of the pack is the "alpha male" (our President). He needs to constantly sell this war and that includes shaming anyone who beatches or complains (the way Murtha, Kerry and the rest do constantly).

This is a world war between virulent islam and modernity. It must be won before this enemy gets nuclear weapons because a suicidal army with nukes is the most lethal combination the world has ever known.

2 posted on 05/29/2006 8:06:21 AM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: nnn0jeh; Cailleach; TR Jeffersonian

PING


3 posted on 05/29/2006 8:08:37 AM PDT by kalee (Send your senators the dictionary definition of "amnesty")
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To: 11B Warrior

The globalists are divided amongst the Dems and GOP. Both want the ability to move goods, materials and PEOPLE globally. At the same time these globalists play their political games to insure the party of their choice is in power to support their agendas in other areas (social and cultural). The Dem globalists realize that their partisan tactics may have backfired. Making GWB look bad and giving tacit approval for extreme left attacks by remaining silent, the Dem globalists realize that they may have created an isolationist America supported by the leftwing fringe and war weary conservatives. If the US becomes neo isolationists, then the Dem globalists cannot move their internationalist agenda forward, especially if a Dem wins the 2008 elections. IMHO that is why we are starting to see Dems op eds that have second thoughts of beating up all of GWB's foreign policy.


4 posted on 05/29/2006 8:23:07 AM PDT by Fee (`+Great powers never let minor allies dictate who, where and when they must fight.)
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To: 11B Warrior

Very food article. Our all volunteer career force is vvery strong, very noble and very well trained very conscientious.


5 posted on 05/29/2006 8:40:34 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys-Reagan and Bush)
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To: 11B Warrior

"These are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier
and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the
service of his country; but he that stands it now, deserves the
love and thanks of man and woman."

-- Thomas Paine (The American Crisis, No. 1, 19 December 1776)

Reference: Thomas Paine: Collected Writings , Foner ed., Library
of America (91)


6 posted on 05/29/2006 9:07:02 AM PDT by RoadTest (For the love of money is the root of all evil - I Timothy 6:10)
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To: Dark Skies

If that's the case, we shouldn't be setting up countries with Islam as source of legislation. That defeats the purpose for which these men and women are fighting and dying. Remember Abdul Rahman? Conversion to Christianity is still worth the death penalty in Afghanistan.

We shouldn't be creating a modern Muslim military that could turn on our soliders, or combine with the shiites in Iran to make our lives miserable. Rather, we should be doing everything we can to make sure they do NOT have effective military power.

We shouldn't be allowing muslim immigrants or students into our country, as that raises the risk to the civilian population of the US. During WWII, would we have let massive numbers of Germans or Japanese or Italians move into or study in the US?

We shouldn't be providing aid to the enemy, including countries like Eqypt.

We SHOULD be working hell for leather on energy independence, instead of making feeble little attempts to deal with that problem.



7 posted on 05/29/2006 9:22:07 AM PDT by bordergal
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To: bordergal
I just wish Condi would agree with your statement!

Looks like it's gonna be "bordergal" in 2008!!!

8 posted on 05/29/2006 10:16:31 AM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: 11B Warrior

It's a good editorial. Not great but good, and I'm glad to see something this sensible in the New York Times -- it's a healthy sign.


9 posted on 05/29/2006 10:47:20 AM PDT by 68skylark
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To: 11B Warrior
Our warriors are the hunters, not the hunted.

This is my favorite line in the article.

It's true, and it's something that usually never gets reported in the NY Times. I'm sure this line will stir a lot of angry letters to the editor.

10 posted on 05/29/2006 10:52:16 AM PDT by 68skylark
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To: 11B Warrior
support for the mission in Iraq is indicative not so much of our military conduct there, where real gains are coming slowly but steadily, but of chaotic leadership.

Of course it couldn't have anything, anything at all, to do with the way the media is coverning the war, could it? Nah, must be:

Bush's fault!

11 posted on 05/29/2006 2:11:44 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: yldstrk
Our all volunteer career force is vvery strong, very noble and very well trained very conscientious.

And so very small that they have to be augmented, even for such a small war, by reservists and National Guardsmen.

BTW, those reserve forces are also noble, well trained, and conscientious.

12 posted on 05/29/2006 2:15:50 PM PDT by El Gato
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