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Pedophiles to launch political party [Netherlands]
Yahoo News/Reuters ^ | 5/30/06 | Reuters

Posted on 05/30/2006 10:27:26 AM PDT by Dragonfly

Pedophiles to launch political party

AMSTERDAM (Reuters) - Dutch pedophiles are launching a political party to push for a cut in the legal age for sexual relations to 12 from 16 and the legalization of child pornography and sex with animals, sparking widespread outrage.

The Charity, Freedom and Diversity (NVD) party said on its Web site it would be officially registered Wednesday, proclaiming: "We are going to shake The Hague awake!"

The party said it wanted to cut the legal age for sexual relations to 12 and eventually scrap the limit altogether.

"A ban just makes children curious," Ad van den Berg, one of the party's founders, told the Algemeen Dagblad (AD) newspaper.

"We want to make pedophilia the subject of discussion," he said, adding the subject had been a taboo since the 1996 Marc Dutroux child abuse scandal in neighboring Belgium.

"We want to get into parliament so we have a voice. Other politicians only talk about us in a negative sense, as if we were criminals," Van den Berg told Reuters.

The Netherlands, which already has liberal policies on soft drugs, prostitution and gay marriage, was shocked by the plan.

An opinion poll published Tuesday showed that 82 percent wanted the government to do something to stop the new party, while 67 percent said promoting pedophilia should be illegal.

"They make out as if they want more rights for children. But their position that children should be allowed sexual contact from age 12 is of course just in their own interest," anti-pedophile campaigner Ireen van Engelen told the AD daily.

Right-wing lawmaker Geert Wilders said he had asked the government to investigate whether a party with such "sick ideas" could really be established, ANP news agency reported.

Kees van der Staaij, a member of the Christian SGP party, also demanded action: "Pedophilia and child pornography should be taboo in every constitutional state. Breaking that will just create more victims and more serious ones."

The party wants private possession of child pornography to be allowed although it supports the ban on the trade of such materials. It also supports allowing pornography to be broadcast on daytime television, with only violent pornography limited to the late evening.

Toddlers should be given sex education and youths aged 16 and up should be allowed to appear in pornographic films and prostitute themselves. Sex with animals should be allowed although abuse of animals should remain illegal, the NVD said.

The party also said everybody should be allowed to go naked in public and promotes legalizing all soft and hard drugs and free train travel for all.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: diversity; duplicatethread; homosexualagenda; michaelmoore; nambla; netherlands; paedophiles; pedophiles; schwarzenegger
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I'm speechless.
1 posted on 05/30/2006 10:27:31 AM PDT by Dragonfly
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To: Dragonfly
"...Other politicians only talk about us in a negative sense, as if we were criminals," Van den Berg told Reuters.

That's because YOU ARE!!!

2 posted on 05/30/2006 10:29:49 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll. 17,400+ snide replies and counting!)
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To: Dragonfly

Just...nasty.


3 posted on 05/30/2006 10:30:20 AM PDT by CrawDaddyCA (Free Travis McGee!!)
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To: Dragonfly

"and the legalization of ...sex with animals"

If they point to America, they will find it is legal over here (it is criminal only in certain states and under certain circumstances).


4 posted on 05/30/2006 10:30:30 AM PDT by weegee (Slowly but surely and deliberately, converativism is being made a thoughtcrime.)
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To: Dragonfly

Utterly depraved minds are capable of deluding themselves into thinking that their actions are wholesome, healthy and honorable.

And that is exactly what is happening in the Netherlands.


5 posted on 05/30/2006 10:30:35 AM PDT by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But nooo, Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly' man.)
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To: Dragonfly

Free train travel???

Are they crazy???? /sarcasm


6 posted on 05/30/2006 10:30:43 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Dragonfly

"Pedophiles to launch political party [Netherlands]"

Have they taken to creating ACLU/NAMBLA wet dreams in Holland these days?


7 posted on 05/30/2006 10:30:57 AM PDT by Jameison
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To: Dragonfly; mhking

Just Damn!


8 posted on 05/30/2006 10:32:01 AM PDT by roaddog727 (eludium PU36 explosive space modulator)
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To: Dragonfly
Wonder what the muslims will think of this - they will have no qualms about having sex with minor infidel children - but I can tell you what will happen if an infidel adult has sex with one of their children...
9 posted on 05/30/2006 10:32:12 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: Dragonfly

Good god, are they serious? National Lampoon ran a spoof some years ago about the Dutch Threat to the rest of the world--now it's coming true! Just how far do these people plan to go? Tolerance is one thing, but must we embrace every crazy, and I do mean crazy, idea that comes down the pike?


10 posted on 05/30/2006 10:32:25 AM PDT by PandaRosaMishima (she who tends the Nightunicorn)
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To: Dragonfly
"The Netherlands, which already has liberal policies on soft drugs, prostitution and gay marriage, was shocked by the plan."

It's the logical 'next step'.

I don't know why anyone would be shocked.... or speechless.

11 posted on 05/30/2006 10:32:26 AM PDT by GourmetDan
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To: Dragonfly
The Dutch.

If they are as vigiligent with this as they are in spamming/flooding Usenet, we're in for dark times indeed.

Color us surprised.

12 posted on 05/30/2006 10:32:41 AM PDT by Windsong (Jesus Saves, but Buddha makes incremental backups)
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To: Dragonfly

this is the epitome of what being "progressive" will lead to.


13 posted on 05/30/2006 10:33:31 AM PDT by jw777
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To: Dragonfly

The road to depravity that many Americans have eagerly sought to travel. How often is this part of the world held up by liberals as "enlightened" and worth emulating.


14 posted on 05/30/2006 10:33:45 AM PDT by Obadiah (Bushbot...and proud!)
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To: Windsong

vigiligent=Vigilant


15 posted on 05/30/2006 10:34:12 AM PDT by Windsong (Jesus Saves, but Buddha makes incremental backups)
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To: Dragonfly

The end result of the long-established, famous Dutch "tolerance" that the Left loves to celebrate at every opportunity.


16 posted on 05/30/2006 10:35:17 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

Yep. Their platform had a shot up to that point.


17 posted on 05/30/2006 10:35:45 AM PDT by Kellis91789 (I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts. --Will Rogers)
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To: Dragonfly

They already have one in this country.


18 posted on 05/30/2006 10:36:43 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: 2banana

Yeah. If its a girl, they'll kil her...


19 posted on 05/30/2006 10:36:55 AM PDT by Little Ray (If you want to be a martyr, we want to martyr you.)
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To: 2banana

If their goal is to make Muslims uncomfortable enough to leave, this is a roundabout method for sure.


20 posted on 05/30/2006 10:37:07 AM PDT by Kellis91789 (I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts. --Will Rogers)
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To: Dragonfly
Dutch pedophiles are launching a political party to push for a cut in the legal age for sexual relations to 12 from 16 . . .

The age of consent is 12 in Kentucky . . . as long as the other person is within five years (17). That is true for 13, 14, and 15 year olds as well. 16 is the "no stipulations" age of consent.

21 posted on 05/30/2006 10:38:49 AM PDT by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: Dragonfly

Speechless but not surprised...lots of el sicko two-legged beast out there...


22 posted on 05/30/2006 10:39:01 AM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
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To: Jameison
Technically, wouldn't they be considered ephebephiles, instead of pedophiles?
23 posted on 05/30/2006 10:39:32 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Dragonfly

Un-blinkin-believable...


24 posted on 05/30/2006 10:39:33 AM PDT by mhking ("I make my livin' on the evening news...")
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To: Dragonfly

They're Progressives!


25 posted on 05/30/2006 10:39:59 AM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: Dragonfly
"Sex with animals should be allowed although abuse of animals should remain illegal..."

Well, I'm glad we've got that covered.
26 posted on 05/30/2006 10:41:38 AM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: weegee

"If they point to America, they will find it is legal over here (it is criminal only in certain states and under certain circumstances)."

It was legal in the states of Washington and Florida, but last I heard Washington banned it. Not sure about Florida.


27 posted on 05/30/2006 10:43:18 AM PDT by NapkinUser (Why isn't there a 'virtual fence' around the White House?)
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To: Bluegrass Conservative

That's the same in Maryland.


28 posted on 05/30/2006 10:43:19 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Kellis91789

Nah, Mo would fit right in!! ;)


29 posted on 05/30/2006 10:43:38 AM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~| IRA supporters on FR are trolls, end of story!)
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To: Dragonfly

Ginsberg, when at the ACLU, promoted the same thing.


30 posted on 05/30/2006 10:47:18 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Dragonfly
"We are going to shake The Hague awake!"

Right....because the kids are down for their afternoon nap and they're feeling a bit "anxious."

Sickos.

31 posted on 05/30/2006 10:52:23 AM PDT by edpc
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To: Dragonfly

Have you ever observed the actions of Cardinal Roger Mahony of the Diocese of Los Angelos?

The following article describes Cardinal Roger Mahony relative to pedophiles:




And anybody who thinks Mahony is a sincere advocate for civil disobedience should talk to protesting pro-lifers: Squeamish about getting too close to them, Mahony won't even let them collect signatures for ballot propositions on his parishes' property. Notice, too, that he now speaks of compassion as more important than law — but when common sense and basic compassion dictated that he cooperate with the authorities in protecting children from pedophile priests, he didn't, arguing that his understanding of the law didn't technically require cooperation.

Michael Baker, an ex-priest caught molesting children, has testified about Mahony's hypocritical brand of I'm-above-the-law clericalism, recounting that after he offered to turn himself in to the police, Mahony's chancery lawyer said, "Should we call the police now?" And Mahony's response was, according to Baker, "No, no, no." Mahony then assigned Baker — over the subsequent 14 years — to several parishes near schools and children.

Jurors sitting on a case involving a pedophile priest in Stockton (a priest whose ministry partially overlapped with Mahony's tenure as bishop of Stockton) concluded that Mahony didn't even respect the rules of the courtroom. In their deliberations on the size of the settlement to the victims in the case, the jurors disregarded Mahony's testimony, sizing him up as a witness who lacked credibility. One juror told the press that he "found Mahony to be utterly unbelievable."

Standing against the law, in other words, comes easily to Mahony — not because he grasps a higher law, but because his self-indulgent liberalism is essentially lawless. His left-wing clericalism means that he can ignore justly enacted positive laws with the same casualness with which he ignores inconvenient parts of canon law.

I had to laugh when I heard last week that he in effect called on Los Angeles Catholics to "fast" and "pray" that amnesty be extended to illegal immigrants. This is a cardinal who normally considers such practices ultramontane burdens — a cardinal who waives Holy Days of Obligation when they fall too close to Sunday, because he doesn't want the faithful to suffer the agony of going to church twice within three days. Yet to advance his chic liberalism he will harness the power of old-time piety and invoke weighty Catholic language he usually dismisses as too sectarian. The Church, he proudly harrumphs against a phantom threat, "is not in a position of negotiating the spiritual and the corporal works of mercy" — a phrase I've never heard him utter before.

http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/neumayr200604120719.asp




32 posted on 05/30/2006 10:52:37 AM PDT by petkus
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To: Dragonfly

Dateline:


Amsterdamned.


33 posted on 05/30/2006 10:53:25 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Dragonfly

It was only a matter of time....


34 posted on 05/30/2006 10:53:53 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (Everyone should have a subject they are ignorant about. I choose professional corporate sports.)
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To: Dragonfly

In a related story, Michael Jackson has just announced that he is moving to The Netherlands.


35 posted on 05/30/2006 10:54:48 AM PDT by dfwgator (Florida Gators - 2006 NCAA Men's Basketball Champions)
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To: Dragonfly

They have the NVD, we have the DemocRATS.


36 posted on 05/30/2006 10:54:50 AM PDT by BadAndy ("Loud mouth internet Rambo")
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To: Dragonfly
"A ban just makes children curious, safer " Ad van den Berg, one of the party's founders, told the Algemeen Dagblad (AD) newspaper.
37 posted on 05/30/2006 10:55:03 AM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: Dragonfly
The party also said everybody should be allowed to go naked in public and promotes legalizing all soft and hard drugs and free train travel for all.

What a bizarre statement. I'm picturing trains full of naked stoned Dutch people.

38 posted on 05/30/2006 10:57:42 AM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: Dragonfly
Other politicians only talk about us in a negative sense, as if we were criminals

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"as if..."???

I have lost track of how many FReepers have predicted that, if homosexuals were legitimized, the pedophiles would be right behind them, claiming to be, "normal, too"...

To all of you: You were right on!

39 posted on 05/30/2006 10:57:43 AM PDT by TXnMA (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Repeat San Jacinto!!! AND START IN AUSTIN!!!)
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To: Dragonfly
An opinion poll published Tuesday showed that 82 percent wanted the government to do something to stop the new party, while 67 percent said promoting pedophilia should be illegal.

So, I understand that 33 percent consider promoting pedophilia as a freedom of speech or already have such tendencies, what a pathetic clowns.

40 posted on 05/30/2006 11:00:34 AM PDT by Lukasz
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"Pedophilia and child pornography should be taboo in every constitutional state. Breaking that will just create more victims and more serious ones."

The "logic" of homsexual activists and pro-abortion activists is biting back with a vengeance. If society cannot define male, female, couple, or even life, why in the world does anyone think it can define adult?

41 posted on 05/30/2006 11:02:08 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Kellis91789
If their goal is to make Muslims uncomfortable enough to leave, this is a roundabout method for sure.

Yeah right. Mohammed had sex with his 9 year old wife. He married her when she was six. He was around 53 at the time.

42 posted on 05/30/2006 11:07:45 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: Dragonfly
Soon to follow in the US..... Let's try some names for it.

Inverticrats...

43 posted on 05/30/2006 11:09:21 AM PDT by b4its2late (Men are from earth. Women are from earth. Hillary's from hell. Deal with it.)
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To: Dragonfly

This might be a fusion party. Finally, the Muslims and the libertines can find common ground.


44 posted on 05/30/2006 11:10:27 AM PDT by AmishDude (Everybody loves AmishDude)
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To: Dragonfly

Too bad they don't start something like that here and split the Democratic vote!


45 posted on 05/30/2006 11:16:30 AM PDT by marsh_of_mists
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To: Dragonfly

Probably get a lot of support in the Lake of Fire.


46 posted on 05/30/2006 11:22:06 AM PDT by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Jesus always reads His knee-mail. (Hall of Fame Hit-N-Run poster))
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To: marsh_of_mists

LOL


47 posted on 05/30/2006 11:22:55 AM PDT by Kellis91789 (I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts. --Will Rogers)
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To: Perdogg

ephebephiles = ephebophile


48 posted on 05/30/2006 11:24:11 AM PDT by Old Seadog (Inside every old person is a young person saying "WTF happened?".)
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To: Dragonfly

I remember reading the book of Leviticus as a young person and getting to the part where it was forbidden to have sex with your mother or your sister - or with animals.

I remember thinking ...Yuck!! what kind of whackos was He talking to?

Now I know.


49 posted on 05/30/2006 11:25:42 AM PDT by Scotswife
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"The Charity, Freedom and Diversity (NVD) party....."


There's that damned "D" word at work again.


50 posted on 05/30/2006 11:27:52 AM PDT by Dazedcat ((Please God, make it stop))
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