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Supreme Court Refuses To Take Up Boy Scout Case
AP ^ | 5/30/6

Posted on 05/30/2006 3:17:33 PM PDT by SmithL

WASHINGTON -- The Supreme Court rejected an appeal Tuesday from an atheist father over Boy Scout recruiting at his son's public school.

John Scalise had asked the court to bar public schools from opening their doors to Boy Scout recruiters and promoting membership, arguing that the group discriminates against nonreligious boys and parents by denying them membership if they don't swear to religious oaths.

Scalise's dispute with the Scouts dates back to 1998, when his son was a third-grader in Mount Pleasant, Mich.

He claims he and his son were barred from a Scout program at the elementary school because they would not pledge "to do my duty to God and my country." They are nonreligious Humanists.

Michigan courts ruled that the school-Scout partnership did not advance religion in violation of constitutional dictates.

Attorneys for the Scouts and Mount Pleasant school system told justices that the appeal was frivolous.

A Michigan appeals court said that Mount Pleasant schools allowed other organizations to use class facilities, including a hospital group, an Indian tribe, a Baptist church, and a hockey association.

Scalise argued that his son, Benjamin, was taunted by classmates and humiliated by a Boy Scout recruiter in front of other students. Benjamin Scalise is now 17.

The Supreme Court's last Boy Scout case was in 2000. Justices ruled 5-4 at the time that the Boy Scouts can bar gays from serving as troop leaders. The ruling was written by Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist, who died last year.

Scalise's attorney, Timothy Taylor of Mount Pleasant, said taxpayer-funded schools are too cozy with the Boy Scouts.

"It's going on all over the country and has been for decades," he said.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antitheist; boyscouts; bsa; onmyhonor; recruitment; ruling; scotus
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The Good Guys win another one.
1 posted on 05/30/2006 3:17:35 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

A small "hooray" is called for here...


2 posted on 05/30/2006 3:19:56 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: SmithL

Thank God! That trouble making jerk is an anti social creep.


3 posted on 05/30/2006 3:20:34 PM PDT by Williams
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To: SmithL

I wonder if this moron knows that he can start his very own boys organization for people like him. Instead, like a good communist or atheist he wants to force an organization to do his bidding and fit his concept of the world. Scum like him have been attacking the boy scouts for years.


4 posted on 05/30/2006 3:21:21 PM PDT by olezip
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Now if only they will uphold the ban on "partial-birth(complete murder)abortion law".


5 posted on 05/30/2006 3:21:27 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2
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To: SmithL

Every small win is important over the long run.


6 posted on 05/30/2006 3:21:52 PM PDT by Pox
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To: SmithL
nonreligious Humanists.

Um, is that code word for ATHEIST????

Geez, tell it like it is for heavens sake!

7 posted on 05/30/2006 3:22:20 PM PDT by rockabyebaby (Say what you feel, those that matter don't mind, those that mind don't matter.)
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To: SmithL

Thank the "Bushbots" for this one.


8 posted on 05/30/2006 3:22:20 PM PDT by lormand (Michael Savage - The "turd in the punch bowl" of Conservatism and a classless POS)
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To: SmithL
Scalise argued that his son, Benjamin, was taunted by classmates and humiliated by a Boy Scout recruiter in front of other students.

Scalise, why don't you start your own program? You could call it "Humanists loving the earth". Oh, that's right, there already is a program established. It is call "public education".

9 posted on 05/30/2006 3:22:28 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: olezip
"Scum like him have been attacking the boy scouts for years."

Not only attacking the Boy Scouts verbally, but SEXUALLY as well.

10 posted on 05/30/2006 3:22:42 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2
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To: SmithL

I always wonder why these "nonreligious Humanists" don't simply start their own youth groups and all six of them can be happy and the Boy Scouts and normal people can also be happy...


11 posted on 05/30/2006 3:25:22 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: SmithL

Did they really though? You win but it cost you millions. If the loser had to pay all legal expenses this stuff couldn't thrive.


12 posted on 05/30/2006 3:26:13 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: SmithL

Scalise's attorney, Timothy Taylor of Mount Pleasant, said taxpayer-funded schools are too cozy with the Boy Scouts.

"It's going on all over the country and has been for decades," he said.


Ahhh, but it they were atheistic "Young Pioneers" that would be another story eh Mr. Scalise?

What is an atheistic humanist anyway?


13 posted on 05/30/2006 3:26:33 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: SmithL
Double win

The justice system works and he got his case as far as he did (if even spurious)

and the SCOTUS used common sense in the application of precident to tell this jerk to take a hike.

14 posted on 05/30/2006 3:29:19 PM PDT by llevrok (The next greatest generation is now.)
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To: Publius6961
. . .start their own youth groups and all six of them can be happy and the Boy Scouts and normal people can also be happy...

"All six of them" - hehe.

15 posted on 05/30/2006 3:29:33 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Jotting you down in my "every thread is really abortion" notebook


16 posted on 05/30/2006 3:31:59 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: SmithL
arguing that the group discriminates against nonreligious boys and parents by denying them membership if they don't swear to religious oaths.

Ahhh - Why would you want to join an organization that believes in things you don't? Go found your own organization - on Godless principles. That's where the equality comes in, you are free to start your own groups that espouse to your believes, or lack thereof - (and see how good it is or how long it lasts)

Hooray for SCOTUS

17 posted on 05/30/2006 3:32:45 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Lincoln: "...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.")
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To: SmithL
nonreligious Humanists

both words mean the same

18 posted on 05/30/2006 3:35:07 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Lincoln: "...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.")
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To: SmithL
Scalise's dispute with the Scouts dates back to 1998...

Wow, what a bummer. You work for damnnear a decade to get your lefty cause in front of the Supremes and - BAM! - you run smack-dab into a freshly-minted conservative court.

Oh, the humanitarian!

19 posted on 05/30/2006 3:40:33 PM PDT by randog (What the...?!)
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To: tet68

I was thinking that Mr. Scalise should start an organization for young nonreligious humanists as an alternative to the Boy Scouts, and call it the Boy Humans, but starting an American version of Young Pioneers would be better. Just think of all the tradition from the Soviet Union they could draw on. (I don't know if the organization still exists in Russia.)


20 posted on 05/30/2006 3:47:50 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Williams
Thank God! That trouble making jerk is an anti social creep.

I agree with your assessment of Scalise but if we attack him personally we make it about him rather than about the more important issue. That's usually what these types of people want, focus on them. What is to be celebrated is that the will of the people has been served over the PC interests of the individual.

21 posted on 05/30/2006 3:48:16 PM PDT by Ben Mugged (If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you are reading it in English, thank a soldier.)
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To: SmithL
The Good Guys win another one.

Agreed, and I believe we are going to see a long line of well reasoned decisions, even if we don't always agree with them.

22 posted on 05/30/2006 3:49:28 PM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: SmithL

The Boy Scouts should sue this "humanist" and his assclown attorney for the legal expenses they incurred fighting off this frivolous lawsuit. That might shut them both up if they ain't got a pot to pi** in!!!


23 posted on 05/30/2006 3:49:29 PM PDT by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: SmithL
The Supreme Court rejected an appeal Tuesday from an atheist father over Boy Scout recruiting at his son's public school.


24 posted on 05/30/2006 3:50:50 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("It'sTime for Republicans to Start Toeing the Conservative Line, NOT the Other Way Around!")
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To: CindyDawg

So, are you saying that since it would cost us money, we should just knuckle under to the athiests and homos?


25 posted on 05/30/2006 3:51:23 PM PDT by Redleg Duke (ˇSalga de los Estados Unidos de América, invasor!)
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To: SmithL

If this nimrod had won the Boy Scouts would have had to rename the God and Country award to the the non-existent one and Country award?


26 posted on 05/30/2006 3:54:44 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: SmithL
We need to thank our President for the new courts we have, its a long way back from all the damage done by the commies the last 20 years or so.
Be patient and help our side win, get out there an vote.
We will take them out to the woodshed later for their lousy votes. But we need to keep the other side out of power at all costs
27 posted on 05/30/2006 3:55:14 PM PDT by roverman2K6
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To: SandRat

FYI


28 posted on 05/30/2006 3:55:24 PM PDT by eureka! (Heaven forbid the Rats get control of Congress and/or the Presidency any time soon....)
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To: Redleg Duke
Absolutely not. I'm saying get out your checkbook and donate to the Boy Scouts and push legislation for losing sides (which includes the lawyers) to pay for costs.
29 posted on 05/30/2006 3:56:38 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: SmithL

Scalia and Alito refuse Scalise.

:)


30 posted on 05/30/2006 3:57:58 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (My donation to the GOP went here instead: http://www.minutemanhq.com/hq/index.php)
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To: eureka!; RonF; AppauledAtAppeasementConservat; Looking for Diogenes; Congressman Billybob; ...

Scout Ping


31 posted on 05/30/2006 3:59:47 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SmithL
Scalise's attorney, Timothy Taylor of Mount Pleasant, said taxpayer-funded schools are too cozy with the Boy Scouts. "It's going on all over the country and has been for decades," he said.

What unsung, plain old AMERICAN HEROES Scalis and his mouthpiece are. Why, if the Boy Scouts get a foot in the door at these heretofore perfect and untouchable taxpayer-funded schools who knows what might happen next? Responsibility? Self-reliance? Helping old ladies across the street?

The funniest part is that the lawyer seems to think he's revealed some deep dark secret! Idiots both.

32 posted on 05/30/2006 4:01:06 PM PDT by relictele (Former Cub Scout & Webelo baybee)
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To: rockabyebaby
nonreligious humanist

33 posted on 05/30/2006 4:01:14 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: taxesareforever

Actually, I think there is such a Scout group called Earth Scouts or Spiral Scouts or something.


34 posted on 05/30/2006 4:02:00 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: randog
Wow, what a bummer. You work for damnnear a decade to get your lefty cause in front of the Supremes and - BAM! - you run smack-dab into a freshly-minted conservative court.

Yes, but if the leftist pukes had their way his next appeal would be to the World Court where I can guaran-freakin-tee you he would have a sympathetic ear.

35 posted on 05/30/2006 4:03:28 PM PDT by keat (I'm carbon neutral - how 'bout you?)
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To: ovrtaxt
Scalia and Alito refuse Scalise.

:)
Kinda nice to have strong originalists on the Court, ain't it? :)
36 posted on 05/30/2006 4:13:44 PM PDT by NinoFan
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To: SmithL

ping


37 posted on 05/30/2006 4:20:48 PM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( Terrorism is a symptom, ISLAM IS THE DISEASE!)
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To: SmithL

Hip Hip Hooray!!!!! A victory for the Scouts!


38 posted on 05/30/2006 4:21:55 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: olezip
Instead, like a good communist or atheist he wants to force an organization to do his bidding and fit his concept of the world

Malignant narcissism. The world must conform to ME, ME, ME!!!!!!

39 posted on 05/30/2006 4:22:51 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: CindyDawg
I'm saying get out your checkbook and donate to the Boy Scouts

Donate directly to the Scouts as some United Way programs have been withdrawing their support because of their non-homo troop leader policy.

40 posted on 05/30/2006 4:26:29 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: HungarianGypsy

You are right. Spiral Scouts. He's not satisfied that his son could join this group but is electing to try and remove the rights of those who use the Boy Scouts. What a jerk.


41 posted on 05/30/2006 4:26:39 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: jiggyboy
Jotting you down in my "every thread is really abortion" notebook

I'm just a bystander to this one, but sheesh, cut the poster some slack. He makes a good point. There is a deep connection between atheism and abortion: Abortion is only imaginable if you deny that there is a God, in Whose image and likeness we are made.

And when you write down my name, please spell it right and capitalize the second "S."

(As Hancock said, I'll write my name nice and big so the king can read it without his glasses.)

42 posted on 05/30/2006 4:42:15 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: wagglebee

Good news!


43 posted on 05/30/2006 4:53:06 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Rummyfan
I haven't donated to the United Way since a local representative could not guarantee me that none of my money would go to planned unparenthood.
44 posted on 05/30/2006 5:20:22 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Iam1ru1-2
Years ago, a friend in the cement industry provided his own insight into why the Boy Scouts and Scouting are so valuable to our way of life. He said, simply, Scouts are a place where average kids can achieve.
Average kids are just that. But an arrow point or a Life Scout badge provides an initiation into how life works and how to progress in your working life. Achievement leads to recognition and success.
He had hired dozens of employees for various levels at Lone Star Cement Company. In his interviews, he always asked about a Scout connection and was never disappointed in those he hired.
45 posted on 05/30/2006 5:32:21 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Pox
That is how the Dems do it. One little bit at a time.
46 posted on 05/30/2006 5:34:08 PM PDT by JSteff
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To: Publius6961

"I always wonder why these "nonreligious Humanists" don't simply start their own youth groups and all six of them can be happy..?"

LOL how true. Well spoken.


47 posted on 05/30/2006 5:35:47 PM PDT by JSteff
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To: tet68
"What is an atheistic humanist anyway?"

One step above a wican or something.....
48 posted on 05/30/2006 5:37:25 PM PDT by JSteff
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To: JSteff
"What is an atheistic humanist anyway?"

Clearly a religion, based on faith that humans are the highest form of being.

49 posted on 05/30/2006 6:26:29 PM PDT by GregoryFul (off with their heads!)
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To: tet68
What is an atheistic humanist anyway?

Someone who's going to Hell?
50 posted on 05/30/2006 6:27:23 PM PDT by horse_doc
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