Click it or ticket

townhall ^ | 5/24/06 | Walter WIlliams

[Atlas Sneezed]

off topic debate...these are related issues...and i didnt know i was going to be disciplined for lack of grammer in punctuation and capitalisation

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You weren't disciplined. It was just implied that your carelessness with your communication makes you look stupid.

You seem to have trouble with the difference between being encouraged to do the right thing (e.g. write courteously, wear a seatbelt) and being punished for failure to do so.

And the fact that I will not engage in the WOD debate with you does not deny you the right to hijack this thread to distract from the good issues the author raised.

[Liberty Valance]

"Click it or Ticket".

Oh for the days before shoulder harnesses...

[dfwgator]

the right of a person to go from place to place WITHOUT GOVERNMENT PERMISSION is an ancient right uder the common law of England.

You are absolutely right, you have the right to walk anywhere you want.

[Atlas Sneezed]

Oh, and try the friggin' spell checker for a change, if you don't want to come off like a half-wit.

[Protagoras]

So have your insurance rates gone down with all the seat belt legislation? After all, we're all safer now, right?

When I started driving, a significant number of vehicles on the highway did not have seat belts. The dashboards were made of steel, no padding, no airbags, no crumple zones, bias ply tires, no antilock brakes, no traction control computers, some didn't even have collapsing steering columns.

Good point, all the safety features and the insurance rates are higher. Hmmmmmmmm

[JoeSixPack1]

See my #30 and get ready to bend over.

[Political Junkie Too]

Maybe it's because every dead driver is a potential loss of $10,000/year in taxes paid to the government. They want to keep you alive to keep the revenue stream going. ;-)

-PJ

[TomServo]

as man as abraham lincoln when he dismissed some of the rights in the constitution to preserve the SECURITY of the united states and keep the union together..

You're quite out of your mind, dangerous and very much on the wrong forum.

[rwfromkansas]

Perhaps you guys in Florida need to be as vocal as in KS. They tried to make it a primary offense two or three years ago, but the folks in Topeka backed off when they got quite a few angry phone calls from the people back home.

[Protagoras]

and i didnt know i was going to be disciplined for lack of grammer in punctuation and capitalisation

You forgot spelling.

Government school diploma?

[BlueStateDepression]

It is only a secondary offense in Kansas.

Used to be like that here in Illinois also. Not any more.

[Atlas Sneezed]

when government does not force individuals to bear the private costs of the bad decisions of others.

I guess you have a problem with the laws that force you to do that.

Instead, you bought into the authoritarian trap.

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I find your post incoherent. Your statements do not appear to relate to the excerpt of what I wrote.

[dfwgator]

You're quite out of your mind, dangerous and very much on the wrong forum.

Yep I forgot with many here Lincoln and Hitler are synonymous.

[Renegade]

"You do not have the right to drive, it is a privilege, and to keep that privilege there are rules to follow."



Yeah, like illegal aliens care about rules to follow .Cut me a break . this is government power out of control ( along with gun laws and helmet laws ). Tom Jefferson is spinning in his grave .
The legislatures pass 10 laws a year . In ten years you have been restricted 100 more times . How many laws do thet abolish in that period of time ????

[chrispycsuf]

how ever did you survive without onstar??? (sarcasm from a 20-something guy)

[elkfersupper]

I'm not going to bite, other than to say that's the most inane question that's been posed to me since the last time I was in an airport.

[rwfromkansas]

They tried to make it primary here a couple years ago, but folks raised enough ruckus they dropped the idea.

I am not normally too libertarian, but by golly, seatbelt usage should be optional.

[half-cajun]

I almost always wear my seatbelt, but about a month ago, while running several errands and getting in and out of the car, I forgot to put it on. Trooper stopped me just for not wearing it. Cost me $140!! This is in Texas of all places. It's to make money and nothing else.

[dirtboy]

my brother decided to go driving at night....was hit by another driver, was ejected out of the car and died...

And because of that loss, you think the feds should usurp power by forcing states to enact seat-belt laws, and the states should use ever-more intrusive methods to enforce those laws, such as night-vision googles?

Most bad government comes when someone says "there ought to be a law!" like you've done here.

[Atlas Sneezed]

Is a state that enforces its laws a police state?

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Depends on the laws.

Perhaps a look at the article under discussion might illustrate this:

"That means it's a legitimate use of state power to mandate that cars have working brakes because if my car has poorly functioning brakes, I risk the lives of others and I have no right to do so. If I don't wear a seatbelt I risk my own life, which is well within my rights."

Get it now?