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Was the 2004 Election Stolen? (by RFKjr)
Rolling Stone ^ | 6/1/06 | ROBERT F. KENNEDY JR.

Posted on 06/01/2006 12:06:42 PM PDT by finnman69

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To: The Electrician
"Was the 1960 Election Stolen?"

Not by Kennedy. It was a 'gift' from the boys in Chicago. Well, sort of a gift. There were strings attached and JFK tried to cut them. Bad idea, according to Sam and Chuck Giancana. ("Doublecross" -- 1992. Warner Books).

101 posted on 06/01/2006 1:39:55 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: finnman69
Are the Kennedys all brain-damaged boozers?
102 posted on 06/01/2006 1:41:07 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: Christian4Bush

Of course. I was only pointing out the worthlessness of their propaganda.


103 posted on 06/01/2006 1:51:06 PM PDT by xp38
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To: Steve_Seattle

If they are in line at 1:45, they aint working.


104 posted on 06/01/2006 1:51:51 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: newcthem

And here in the Peoples Republic of Wisconsin, we had a few THOUSAND cases of voter fraud.........fortunately they were all in Kerry's favor to it didn't count.



Was it not also in your State that they cut the tires on (R) vans to bring voters to the polls???


105 posted on 06/01/2006 1:52:06 PM PDT by danamco
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To: Common Tator

Fascinating behind-the-scenes look at Ohio. Thanks for sharing 'Tator.


106 posted on 06/01/2006 1:57:18 PM PDT by RobFromGa (The FairTax cult is like Scientology, but without the movie stars)
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To: areafiftyone
MY GOD WHY ARE THE DEMOCRATS CONTANTLY LIVING IN THE PAST???? Vietnam, 2000 election stolen, 2004 election stolen! No wonder they can't win a presidential election! LOL



Conveniently they forgot to mention alGore's attempt to steal the 2000 election and his scams to disqualify all the armed forces votes because of postal stamps!??!
107 posted on 06/01/2006 1:58:15 PM PDT by danamco
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To: danamco

but... but.... he invented the internet!!!


108 posted on 06/01/2006 2:00:54 PM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicans Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For the Same Reason!)
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To: Bikers4Bush

recovering and occasional coke head combined with ETOH abuse and the genetics of the Kennedy curse, until they all die off natually or from drugs,alcohol,auto accidents,sking mishaps and maybe untreated STD"s they will present kook theories in an attempt to justify their losses or gain sympathy for their corrupt ideas


109 posted on 06/01/2006 2:01:40 PM PDT by dubyawhoiluv
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To: xp38
Of course. I was only pointing out the worthlessness of their propaganda.

I know. It's all good. I know we're on the same team.

110 posted on 06/01/2006 2:03:55 PM PDT by Christian4Bush (FreeRepublic and Rush Limbaugh: kevlar protection from the Drive-By Media.)
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To: finnman69

And, all these Bolshecrat voters. Go figure.


111 posted on 06/01/2006 2:07:41 PM PDT by depressed in 06 (The only thing worse than high gas prices is walking.)
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To: finnman69
I thought I remembered that RFK,Jr. had been convicted of heroin possession, and while trying to find proof, I found an interesting biography at this site:

http://www.activistcash.com/biography.cfm/bid/2765

In the article, an attorney who had worked with him, said of him, "he separates himself from good science at times in order to aggressively pursue an issue and win.” The following two paragraphs also offer an insight into RFK,Jr. lack of character:

Kennedy’s harshest public thrashing to date, however, came from one of his closest colleagues, Riverkeeper founder Robert Boyle. Along with seven other Riverkeeper board members, Boyle resigned in 2000 after Kennedy insisted upon hiring a convicted environmental felon as the group’s chief scientist. At the time, Boyle told the New York Post that Kennedy “is very reckless,” and added that “[h]e’s assumed an arrogance above his intellectual stature.”

Reflecting on the episode later, Boyle gave the New York Times an apt summary of Kennedy’s attitude regarding his environmental crusades: “I thought he was thinking of himself and not the cause of the river,” Boyle said. “It all became his own greater glory.”

More than likely, Kennedy is still being reckless with the truth when he accuses Republicans of stealing the election in 2004. I suspect he has definitely "assumed an arrogance above his intellectual stature"!

112 posted on 06/01/2006 2:11:16 PM PDT by PeskyOne
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To: finnman69

ROFL! This is news? I'm FROM Ohio, and western Ohio is, in general, quite conservative outside of heavily urbanized areas. It's like some sort of conspiracy that Kerry didn't clean up there! DUH! And whose ass did they pick that "long line - didn't vote" number from. If you're not willing to wait in line to vote or do not plan ahead to vote absentee, tough cookies. Your vote is as important as you want it to be. I was in Toledo on election day 2004 - and it was just a horribly cold, rainy day - my roommate at the time (a Naderite in 2000) didn't go and vote. I'm surprised THAT didn't get brought up too. But I guess you can't blame Republicans for the weather (unless it's a hurricane).

Crybabies through and through.


113 posted on 06/01/2006 2:15:47 PM PDT by mjwise
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To: Arrowhead1952
Considering those two sentences, the average time they should have taken is about 15 seconds ------ to hit the "Vote straight ticket" for the RAT party.

I've never seen straight ticket voting in Ohio. Until recently all my elections were on punch cards. The last couple were on computer screens with a backup copy printed on a strip of paper retained in the machine.

114 posted on 06/01/2006 2:21:43 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Never ask a Kennedy if he'll have another drink. It's nobody's business how much he's had already.)
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To: Flightdeck

"...knowing they get a substantial percentage of their votes from the dead or illegals."

Don't forget the 10% (or was it 12%?) that the DeadStreamMedia delivers via their blatant Leftist propaganda.


115 posted on 06/01/2006 2:42:15 PM PDT by Harrius Magnus (Enemy #1 = The Leftist holy trinity of multiculturalism, moral equivalence and relativism.)
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To: mjwise
Re: But I guess you can't blame Republicans for the weather (unless it's a hurricane).

This should be a bumper sticker:

democrats...
Because bitching about the weather is a lifestyle choice.

116 posted on 06/01/2006 2:50:02 PM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans. We Vote.)
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To: finnman69

was the 2004 election stolen?

No we caught dan rather lying and prevented it....


117 posted on 06/01/2006 2:53:25 PM PDT by edzo4
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To: Common Tator

Excellent post. Can you point me to information that documents the 250,000 mostly bogus Democratic registrations and the efforts of the Republicans in Ohio to prevent them to be used for fraudulent votes?


118 posted on 06/01/2006 2:53:36 PM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: finnman69

Get ready for desperate dim efforts at fraud in 2006 & 2008. This propaganda is just to fire up their base and salve guilty consciences.


119 posted on 06/01/2006 3:04:08 PM PDT by darth
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To: finnman69

One interview I saw of RFK junior on tv a few years back convinced me that he was fanatic nut. I guess I have been proved right.


120 posted on 06/01/2006 3:13:20 PM PDT by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: Argus

We know how to do it now they better watch out.


121 posted on 06/01/2006 3:25:13 PM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: Common Tator

Excellent analysis. You should send this to every major newspaper in the country.


122 posted on 06/01/2006 3:51:47 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: finnman69

Was Mary Jo pregnant with tubby's baby?


123 posted on 06/01/2006 3:52:51 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: pabianice

Prima facie, yes, of course. Intuitively obvious to the most casual observer, as some of my engineering school profs liked to say.


124 posted on 06/01/2006 6:45:21 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Argus
Americans "living abroad" shouldn't be voting here. They've abandoned the country, so why should they have a say in how it's governed? Jerks.

Wait one damned minute. My mother is an American citizen living in Canada to care for my grandmother. My mom has voted Republican since 1992 from Canada. She pays taxes to the US Treasury.

You should get your facts straight before you crack on citizens who pay taxes and have every right to vote in a presidential election. Jerk.

125 posted on 06/01/2006 6:46:04 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: Common Tator
That's a really interesting post, and really rings true, based on some of the registration fraud stories I remember reading. Here, I found the one I was thinking of:

Ohio Sheriff Confirms Link to NAACP, Voter Registration Fraud in Ohio

Mary Poppins prompts investigation (uh oh, another example of attempted voter registration fraud)

126 posted on 06/01/2006 6:51:26 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: rwa265
Aha! I knew Karl Rove was behind it. What a sneaky rascal, not allowing people with fake registrations to vote. :-)

The Bush campaign in 2004 had a small, young, and very very good staff in Ohio. They put in 90 to 100 hours a week for months on end. They reported directly to Rove and were very very sharp and well trained. Everyone of them I talked to hoped to perform well enough to become the next Karl Rove in a few years.

Ross County Ohio was the bellwether county for Ohio. Both the Bush and Kerry Campaigns told the media that as Ross County went so would Ohio. I was Republican media liaison for Ross County, Ohio. As a result I often needed to confer with Bush campaign staff. I had easy access to the campaign. I had to know what to tell the media. There was a lot of media here. Even the BBC and ITN from Great Britain were here with crews. I was on the British equivelant of 60 Minutes the weekend before the election.

I got told things that perhaps others were not told. The media would sniff something out from some rumor mill and then hit me with it. I would have to get an answer from the Bush Campaign. So I learned a lot during the campaign that others not involved in the broad picture would not have learned.

I was told by the ITN (the British Commercial TV network) staff that the Demorats polled Ohio about 4 days before the election. It showed Bush winning. I has asked an ITN staffer who was going to win.. He replied, "Bush." I asked how he knew,.. He said, "The latest Democrat internal poll showed Bush winning Ohio." He continued, "Whoever wins Ohio wins the election."

Who ever told the ITN reporter about the Democrats internal poll must not have told Kerry. The rumor mill said it was not smart to give Kerry bad news. The rumor mill said it could cost a Kerry staffer his or her job.

That may be why Kerry was ignorant of what the the hired registration people were doing. I think some people in the Campaign had to know that no one can register 100 people a day. It would be like a first baseman hitting 15 home runs in a game where he only came to bat 3 times.

Some Kerry people fairly hight up had to know. They for some reason did not tell anyone above them.

It appears Bush knew what was going on and Kerry did not.

127 posted on 06/01/2006 9:00:10 PM PDT by Common Tator
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To: Bobkk47
You should send this to every major newspaper in the country.

I think you must believe that newspaper reporters want to report the truth.

As a media liason person for the Bush Campaign I can tell you that telling the media something... even with absolute proof is no guarantee that it will be printed. And if it is printed, it very likely will be spun against the Republicans.

Let us say there was absolute proof that Kerry was stealing votes. You take it to the media and show them the proof. The story in the next days paper would lead with

Kerry staffer accuses Bush campaign of dirty tricks. Kerry has demanded that Bush issue a complete appology for his dispicable accusations. A Kerry campaign spokesperson said the Bush accusations that Kerry is stealing votes is just an attempt to trash Kerry and an example of the worst sort of dirty tricks. The Kerry staffer went on to say that it is obvious that the public does not agree with the Bush positions on issues. And as a result Bush is resorting to attacks on Kerry's character. Kerry called on Bush to end the dirty tricks campaign.

That is what you get when you prove things to the media that they do not want to report. They take the story to the Democrats and then make the story the Democrat reaction to the charges.

Welcome to the real world.

128 posted on 06/01/2006 9:13:32 PM PDT by Common Tator
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To: Richard Kimball
It's a slow day at Rolling Stone every day. The people running that place have to duct tape their bongs to their walkers to keep from losing them.

LOL!

129 posted on 06/01/2006 9:19:30 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: finnman69; All
Now that the democrats have proven that they cannot win a national election, they have fallen back (in both 2000 and 2004) on the canard that the elections are stolen from them. If you can't win an election, make the public lose confidence in elections. Even NPR had Debunked this last week: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5422642
 
 A BAD REVIEW FROM DAN RIEHL: "NPR debunked it a week ago before it was even published."
 
http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/007107.php

Tinfoil Hats On Parade

Bobby Kennedy Jr has a turgid expose at Rolling Stone which purports to blow the lid off the 2004 presidential election by claiming that 350,000 Ohio voters were prevented from reaching the polling stations. This, unsurprisingly, has excited the entire port side of the blogosphere. However, when one begins to read through the argument, supported by a slew of citations but no evidence at all, it sounds like a very tired rehash of all the conspiracy theories we heard between November 2004 and January 2005...Kennedy's lead argument gives readers enough excuse to stop on the first page...And interestingly enough, that's exactly what two research firms looking into the exit poll debacle found...The Confederate Yankee isn't fooled...I note that Kennedy never once mentions Wisconsin, where real election-day dirty tricks and voter fraud occurred and actually resulted in prosecution. Perhaps that's because voter fraud that benefits Democrats fails to interest Kennedy. I look forward to his expose on the 1960 election that made his uncle President.   Comments (13)


130 posted on 06/02/2006 2:11:35 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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To: Common Tator

Thank you and your fellow staffers for your service. It sounds very much like you prevented the Democrats from stealing the election in Ohio. I shudder to think what our situation would now be if Kerry were President. The country owes you a debt of gratitude.


131 posted on 06/02/2006 7:14:31 AM PDT by rwa265 (Behold, I am with you always. (Matthew 28:20))
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To: finnman69

Hey, Mr. Kennedy, did you know that if only a few thousand voters in New Hampshire switched from Kerry to Bush, Ohio wouldn't have mattered?


132 posted on 06/02/2006 7:22:30 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Democrats are guilty of whatever they scream the loudest about.)
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To: finnman69

It's always great to see John F. Ketchup-Boy get his skinny anti-American ass kicked once again >>> http://www.ac4vr.com/reports/072005/ohio.html


133 posted on 06/02/2006 10:20:29 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: buccaneer81

Sorry. I'd make an exception for your mother and people like her who have legitimate reasons to be abroad. I was thinking of the Alec Baldwin type leftists who live overseas because they hate America. Them I don't want voting.

But you're probably right about me being a jerk. I often think so myself.


134 posted on 06/02/2006 12:36:46 PM PDT by Argus
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To: Argus
I was thinking of the Alec Baldwin type leftists who live overseas because they hate America. Them I don't want voting.

On that you and I are in total agreement.

FReegards...

135 posted on 06/02/2006 12:51:38 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: Common Tator

I hope someone writes a book about that election. You seem well-placed to do it.

There is no doubt in my mind, that the Dem's unwillingness to face reality, and to believe the reality that is presented in the Old Media, is biting them in the butt. May it continue to do so.


136 posted on 06/02/2006 12:55:51 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: in hoc signo vinces

it's kinda funny, given the Chicago/IL voting in 1960, isn't it ? At the time, Nixon was urged to contest that voting, but decided such a challenge would be harmful to the country and conceded. A Son of Chicago's then Mayor ends up heading the Gore challenge in Florida in 2000, and this Kennedy twit (and what IS wrong with his voice?) claims the 2004 election was stolen. They are hopeless.


137 posted on 06/02/2006 12:57:29 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: finnman69; All

This is the same lawyer kennedy who was/is advocating slap suits based on environmental "impact" against private individuals.

Essentially ADA for envirowackos. Thus any "individual" could hire a envirowacko group as a court compensated "expert" to sue anyone (corp or individual) for excessive environmental impact and have the target be forced to pay lawyer fees, expert fees, and consultation fees to supervise the corrections.

The man is not worthy of holding the briefcase of a law clerk.


138 posted on 06/02/2006 1:00:30 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Common Tator
They quickly ran out of good names. One Kerry hired person tried to register Marry Poppins in Defiance County Ohio.

I think I remember this case. Isn't this the same guy who was offering people crack cocaine if they registered to vote democrat?

139 posted on 06/02/2006 1:04:41 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC (AIDS, abortion, euthanasia - Don't liberals just kill ya?)
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To: Argus

Given how THE JFK stole the 1960 election it is VERY VERY "rich" for a Kennedy to be fabricating crocodile tears of this election being stolen. Perhaps we should combine and contrast the two "stealings"


140 posted on 06/02/2006 1:11:03 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Common Tator
This year the Unions will be back in the drivers seat of registering new voters in Ohio. They won't get ripped off. They won't register many new voters either.

If nothing else, the unions will be too busy with that to have much time left over to shoot at GOP offices, vandalize homes and vehicles of Republican voters, and assault candidates and campaign volunteers.

The democrats will just leave that kind of work for the La Raza types.

141 posted on 06/02/2006 1:11:10 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC (AIDS, abortion, euthanasia - Don't liberals just kill ya?)
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To: finnman69

Hey Junior...you still riding in around in that private jet?


142 posted on 06/02/2006 1:14:36 PM PDT by ShandaLear (Gringos Unite!!!)
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To: finnman69

As you read the article, You can almost tell that Robert Kennedy Jr, has just finished a fifth of whiskey.


143 posted on 06/02/2006 5:21:39 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: finnman69

This is what Al Gore did to this nation. I will never forgive that piece of cold bologna for pretending the votes weren't counted. In every election since, the rats pretend this again, and will as long as they don't win. If and when they win, voting will finally have been done right and fair.


144 posted on 06/02/2006 5:23:27 PM PDT by ladyinred
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