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Giant Crater Found [in Antarctica]: Tied to Worst Mass Extinction Ever [Permo-Triassic]
SPACE.com ^ | June 2, 2006 | Robert Roy Britt

Posted on 06/02/2006 11:44:43 AM PDT by cogitator

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To: PatrickHenry
How ya gonna handle #79, Ich? Looks like a show stopper.

Gosh-a-roony! How can I go on in the face of such ironclad logic, supported with so much evidence?

81 posted on 06/02/2006 4:32:57 PM PDT by Ichneumon (Ignorance is curable, but the afflicted has to want to be cured.)
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To: cogitator

Kimberlite pipes!


82 posted on 06/02/2006 4:34:44 PM PDT by bvw
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To: akorahil

My new favorite thread.


83 posted on 06/02/2006 4:36:36 PM PDT by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: bvw; cogitator
Kimberlite pipes!

Is there any evidence of huge craters in diamond-producing regions? It would make a certain amount of sense.

84 posted on 06/02/2006 4:44:28 PM PDT by Virginia-American
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To: cogitator; Aetius; Alamo-Girl; AndrewC; Asphalt; Aussie Dasher; Baraonda; BereanBrain; ...

What happened to the Gulf of Mexico?

I thought that was the crater of the rock that caused the extinctions?

Most of us know that it was the flood that did it, and this stuff is for the denial club.


85 posted on 06/02/2006 4:49:51 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: akorahil

86 posted on 06/02/2006 4:54:31 PM PDT by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: Glenn

Your idea of 'observables' appears to be very much related to the consumption of large quantities of adult beverages.


87 posted on 06/02/2006 4:56:03 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: Ichneumon; kerryusama04
The people who are truly "hard to take seriously" are the folks who inevitably feel a need to pop onto all the science threads to express their knee-jerk feelings about science and the people who work in it.

This is a science thread?

Next thing you're going to tell us is that you're a scientist, huh? Give us a good laugh, spam man!!!

88 posted on 06/02/2006 5:05:14 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: kerryusama04; Ichneumon
"Are you going to cite any examples of the life of the Scientific Method in present day science or are you just going to keep attacking me and pinging all your pals?

The latter for sure. First you're going to have to show Iche what science is, since he is one of the other kind. His definition of scientist is anybody that has been baptised in the church of evo-loosion.

Say this a thousand times: Ichenoumon is a syintist, Ichenoumon is a syintist, Ichenoumon is a syintist, Ichenoumon is a syintist, Ichenoumon is a syintist, Ichenoumon is a syintist, Ichenoumon is a syintist....

Say it enough and it can become true,and it helps if you know what code to set your captain midnight ring to.

89 posted on 06/02/2006 5:17:53 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: editor-surveyor
Not just one meteor but two, now is it? And this was big enough of an event to allegedly cause mass global exitinction, yet the Earth was also somehow not affected in what is it's uniquely favorable orbital path, which sustains life in the first place?

Still, though the observation runs counter to the expectation of the Big Bang ("BB") premise, they tell us the reason Venus spins in its orbit opposite to its nearest neighbors Earth and Mercury is because a meteor supposedly knocked it off its rotation also without disrupting its orbit. Add to that, Uranus has a rotation counterintuitive to the BB premise and they use the same stupid explantion for that, as well!

Materialists believe in miracles, and worship at the alter of Fortune and Chance even as the pagan Romans did. They just don't want to believe in the Creator God, Himself, because they fear He might expect something of them that their false little goddess of Fortune togther with their perpetually shrinking intellects won't.

90 posted on 06/02/2006 6:03:39 PM PDT by Agamemnon (Intelligent Design is to evolution what the Swift Boat Vets were to the Kerry campaign)
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To: Agamemnon

Can you imagine a meteor big enough to affect Uranus? It would have to have been bigger than the earth .


91 posted on 06/02/2006 7:18:58 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: editor-surveyor
Your idea of 'observables' appears to be very much related to the consumption of large quantities of adult beverages.

Do you really think so?

92 posted on 06/02/2006 7:20:57 PM PDT by Glenn (Annoy a BushBot...Think for yourself.)
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To: cogitator
SECOND IMPACT

The image the UN didn't want you to see...

93 posted on 06/02/2006 7:35:23 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan Any questions?)
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To: Glenn
"Do you really think so?"

If you really think that the great Bible scholars have failed to adequately expound upon the pertinant realities of our time I do. Perhaps you were just availing yourself of an opportunity for sarcasm; I do that on occasion too.

94 posted on 06/02/2006 7:52:11 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: Bosco

Oklahoma has winds that can blow away your house!

;-D


95 posted on 06/02/2006 8:38:07 PM PDT by 2Jedismom (Life's about changing, nothing ever stays the same)
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To: editor-surveyor; PatrickHenry
What happened to the Gulf of Mexico?

It's right where we left it.

I thought that was the crater of the rock that caused the extinctions?

As if often the case, you thought wrongly.

Most of us know that it was the flood that did it, and this stuff is for the denial club.

Uh huh. Sure. You betcha.

96 posted on 06/02/2006 9:40:13 PM PDT by Ichneumon (Ignorance is curable, but the afflicted has to want to be cured.)
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To: editor-surveyor
The latter for sure. First you're going to have to show Iche what science is, since he is one of the other kind. His definition of scientist is anybody that has been baptised in the church of evo-loosion. Say this a thousand times: Ichenoumon is a syintist, Ichenoumon is a syintist, Ichenoumon is a syintist, Ichenoumon is a syintist, Ichenoumon is a syintist, Ichenoumon is a syintist, Ichenoumon is a syintist.... Say it enough and it can become true,and it helps if you know what code to set your captain midnight ring to.

"This is your brain on anti-evolutionism"...

97 posted on 06/02/2006 9:41:22 PM PDT by Ichneumon (Ignorance is curable, but the afflicted has to want to be cured.)
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To: editor-surveyor
What happened to the "insert favorite mass global extinction theory"

Well I guess just about any humongous crater can be used to infer a mass extinction at just about any point in time that a particular subset of 'scientists' might find it convenient to.

Grab hold of the fossil set you need from the bin of eternity, apply some creative dating techniques to it to get your theory into the desired range(toss out the ones you dont like for the moment), then back to the fossil record again to get evidence/give some evidence back and viola! you have your next greatest mass extinction!

Now to cinch the deal, we will go to the 'dna record'. This is after of course we filter out all the 'junk dna information' and let's brush aside that probability that the complex dna molecules just might be corrupted and altered in ways we cant see much less imagine in the extraction process.

/semi sarc>

Wolf
98 posted on 06/02/2006 9:59:19 PM PDT by RunningWolf (Vet US Army Air Cav 1975)
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To: Agamemnon; editor-surveyor; PatrickHenry; Virginia-American
Not just one meteor but two, now is it?

As anyone with a gradeschool education would have realized, the thousands of craters on the Moon indicate quite obviously that this region of the Solar System has been subject to quite a few significant impact events over the past few billion years, and thus your bizarre derision over the fact that the Earth has been hit by at least two large meteors in the past few hundred million years is sadly misplaced.

And this was big enough of an event to allegedly cause mass global exitinction, yet the Earth was also somehow not affected in what is it's uniquely favorable orbital path, which sustains life in the first place?

Yes, because you are apparently grossly ignorant of the many orders of magnitude difference between the size of an impact which can seriously screw up living conditions on Earth, compared to the vastly larger size of one that would be necessary to affect "it's [sic] uniquely favorable orbital path". I'd end this by suggesting that you "do the math", but clearly, that would be asking something beyond your abilities.

Still, though the observation runs counter to the expectation of the Big Bang ("BB") premise, they tell us the reason Venus spins in its orbit opposite to its nearest neighbors Earth and Mercury is because a meteor supposedly knocked it off its rotation also without disrupting its orbit.

Actually, no, Venus most likely rotates in a retrograde manner due to tidal locks with the other planets.

As for Uranus, it is far more likely due to a large impact early in its history, but while that would "knock it off its rotation" as you clumsily say, you're incorrect when you say that anyone has claimed that it would do so "without disrupting its orbit" -- it would, actually, and almost certainly has. You really need to read more science journals and fewer creationist pamphlets.

Add to that, Uranus has a rotation counterintuitive to the BB premise and they use the same stupid explantion for that, as well!

No, they use a different and "non-stupid" explantion [sic]" for that because that's what the evidence indicates.

Speaking of "stupid explantions [sic]", I'll send you $1000 if you can explain why exactly you think the Big Bang is somehow incompatible with retrograde rotation of planets without making a complete fool of yourself (i.e., saying something really idiotic that demonstrates a gross ignorance of even the most basic high school science). Go for it!

Materialists believe in miracles, and worship at the alter of Fortune and Chance even as the pagan Romans did. They just don't want to believe in the Creator God, Himself, because they fear He might expect something of them that their false little goddess of Fortune togther with their perpetually shrinking intellects won't.

Uh huh. Sure. Again, you might want to try reading more science journals and fewer Jack Chick tracts and so on.

99 posted on 06/02/2006 10:12:39 PM PDT by Ichneumon (Ignorance is curable, but the afflicted has to want to be cured.)
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To: cogitator

Looks like it slipped right through the ozone hole. Damn Bush and his SUVs and global warming.


100 posted on 06/02/2006 10:13:29 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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