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Swiftboating as hate term
Washington Times ^ | June 2, 2006 | R. Emmett Tyrrell

Posted on 06/02/2006 4:10:30 PM PDT by RWR8189

As we watch the left of the Democratic Party press its case to return to the top of the heap in American politics, or at least evade the fate of the Dodo, we have ever more evidence validating an insight on which I stake my reputation as a political seer. To wit: partisan politics more often falls under the professional expertise of the psychiatrist than that of the political scientist. A learned shrink can often tell us more about a political issue than any other professional, not excluding a swami or a voodoo priest.

Consider the ongoing controversy over Sen. Jean-Francois Kerry's military service in the faraway Vietnam War. You doubt the controversy is ongoing? Just last Sunday a Page One story in the New York Times reported that some of Mr. Kerry's supporters during his ill-fated 2004 presidential campaign are endeavoring to prove him a war hero with an unblemished record of heroism. Their targets are the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. These Swifties, as they are called, are the Vietnam vets who claimed that when they served with Mr. Kerry they found him to be a self-aggrandizing, self-indulgent showoff. All insist he exaggerated his feats of heroism, and some testify he lied about his wounds and heroics. Many American voters were persuaded.

Why is this debate being launched? Any innocent observer who watched the showboating senator from Massachusetts bungle his 2004 presidential campaign must know he is today a self-aggrandizing, self-indulgent showoff. Why would he not have been one as a youth, back in the late 1960s when he brought camera equipment into the jungles to film himself at war? After an early exit from military service, he proceeded to follow the fashion of the times and oppose the war, appearing before a Senate committee in 1971 to

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1 posted on 06/02/2006 4:10:32 PM PDT by RWR8189
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To: RWR8189

The left hates the Swift Boat Vets because they were successful, not because they were unfair. They were right.


2 posted on 06/02/2006 4:12:43 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: RWR8189

DemocRATS love to sling arrows but start whining anytime someone shoots one back at them.


3 posted on 06/02/2006 4:14:30 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Somebody get Jack a beer! He spent the whole day "fraggin'" Marines!)
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To: RWR8189

"Swiftboating" . . . hmmm . . . oh yes -- it means reporting the truth about political hacks.


4 posted on 06/02/2006 4:18:13 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: RWR8189; rmlew; Congressman Billybob; Clemenza
Why is this debate being launched? Any innocent observer who watched the showboating senator from Massachusetts bungle his 2004 presidential campaign must know he is today a self-aggrandizing, self-indulgent showoff. Why would he not have been one as a youth, back in the late 1960s when he brought camera equipment into the jungles to film himself at war?

I was reading in Michael Medved's book Right Turns: Unconventional Lessons from a Controversial Life. He says Kerry was that way back when he was a student at Yale which confirms what some Freepers who were also classmates of Kerry's have also said.

5 posted on 06/02/2006 4:19:16 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: RWR8189
[Kerry] has hired a researcher to prove from naval archives he was in Cambodia three decades ago for a few hours when the Nixon administration said he was not supposed to be there.

I wish him luck. That alleged Christmas trip took place during the Johnson administration.

6 posted on 06/02/2006 4:20:00 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: RWR8189

A great column by Emmett Tyrrell, as usual. He was one of the great pleasures of the clinton years.


7 posted on 06/02/2006 4:20:50 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: RWR8189

Good!

There is an election on the horizon and these fools for wannabe kerry are poking the hornets nest with a stick, LOL. Murtha welcomes the distraction, I am sure......but he shouldn't count on it....


8 posted on 06/02/2006 4:21:07 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: RWR8189
"That's another of their Swift Boat-style tactics where they throw up the mud and stick it."

If that's what they're trying to describe, I believe the term is "Borking".

9 posted on 06/02/2006 4:23:26 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
The left hates the Swift Boat Vets because they were successful, not because they were unfair. They were right.

Oderint, dum metuant. Accius

Let them hate, so long as they fear.

10 posted on 06/02/2006 4:26:32 PM PDT by magslinger (WWJBD? What Would Jack Bauer Do?)
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To: RWR8189

Hey Jacques, where are your service records?


11 posted on 06/02/2006 4:28:49 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: RWR8189
... some of Mr. Kerry's supporters during his ill-fated 2004 presidential campaign are endeavoring to prove him a war hero with an unblemished record of heroism.

Which would be made easier if he would sign his SF180. It might prove he was in Cambodia on Christmas.
12 posted on 06/02/2006 4:29:48 PM PDT by depressed in 06 (The only thing worse than high gas prices is walking.)
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To: 60 in 06

I think it is Kerry himself who is doing this. Thereza must have increased his allowance because he is working on rehabbing his image. Now he says he was in Cambodia in February 1969 (just after Richard Milhouse took over). He says he kept a private journal. He told his interviewer his magic hat from the CIA dude, was nearby, but it did not seem to interest her. I'd sure like to see it (and have it carbon dated by the Bones lady on TV). Read all about it here about a week ago. Sorry can't find link. The interviewer was adoration incarnate.


13 posted on 06/02/2006 4:40:24 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: Cicero
A great column by Emmett Tyrrell, as usual. He was one of the great pleasures of the clinton years.

He was even better in the Ford years.

14 posted on 06/02/2006 4:49:42 PM PDT by Graymatter
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To: RWR8189

The SF-180 is unfinished business.


15 posted on 06/02/2006 4:51:48 PM PDT by Imgr8t
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To: 60 in 06

He'll more quickly prove he was an admiral in the Cambodian Navy...


16 posted on 06/02/2006 4:56:02 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: RWR8189

like "BORKing"..


17 posted on 06/02/2006 5:19:31 PM PDT by MarshallDillon (Hello NSA)
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To: MarshallDillon

Someone who was in and out in four months is not my idea of a hero.


18 posted on 06/02/2006 5:54:55 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
I can confirm what you say in this post. I met John Kerry when he showed up for his first participation in the Yale Political Union. He was a self-promoting, snotty, social climber then. About the same as he is today.

P.S. New info. My primary is over, but because of legal and ethical problems, the incumbent may withdraw/be forced out. He is also losing in the latest poll (5/28) to the Democrat challenger. I seek to be the replacement nominee. For more information see my website. I still need your help.

Congressman Billybob

Latest article: "Ray Nagin -- 'Good and Hard' "

19 posted on 06/02/2006 6:03:32 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: RWR8189

From the article:
"What does this prove? I think it proves, beyond being a self-aggrandizing, self-indulgent showoff, this guy is a nut. Yet I leave all this to the professionals."

In light of the above, I asked a real pro on nuts, the Planter Peanut. With a tip of his hat, he said "Kerry is a nut, but we hate to admit it. After all, it is something of an insult to us real nuts."


20 posted on 06/02/2006 6:05:17 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principles, - -)
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To: RWR8189

Swiftboat you, you swiftboating swiftboater.


21 posted on 06/02/2006 6:05:53 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (Stop the ACLU - Support the Public Expression of Religion Act 2005 - Call your congressmen.)
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To: RWR8189

The right honorable Swifties were the best money I spent in the 2004 elections. If the left wants to make their name a term of derision, then it confirms their integrity and honor in fighting America's enemies. JF'ingK is exactly as the Swifties painted him - a POS.


22 posted on 06/02/2006 6:18:02 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Wisdom of the Leftist Tao, No.379: Women are men, men are children and children are adults.)
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To: Cicero

The Carter years, too, for that matter.


23 posted on 06/02/2006 6:21:20 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Wisdom of the Leftist Tao, No.379: Women are men, men are children and children are adults.)
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To: RWR8189
From Kerry's willingness to trash the very name of the boats he served on so briefly in Vietnam, one gathers he won't be running again as a war hero in 2008.

Have at it, Senator. Next time, you can whine that you were "wintersoldiered."

24 posted on 06/02/2006 6:22:01 PM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Billthedrill

Translation Kerry has hired a mast historical revisionist to "teach the controversy" to fabricate a plausably unprovable lie.

(S) The toothfairy was there with kerry in cambodia. (/s)


25 posted on 06/02/2006 6:29:12 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: RWR8189
Libs have now defined "Swiftboating" as a hate term?

Hmmmm....I wonder what their term is for CBS's use of 'forged papers' to sink the President's reelection?

26 posted on 06/02/2006 6:32:39 PM PDT by stockstrader
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To: Congressman Billybob

Good Luck.


27 posted on 06/02/2006 8:05:21 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: Interesting Times
Have at it, Senator. Next time, you can whine that you were "wintersoldiered."

Heh! Very good.

28 posted on 06/02/2006 9:00:45 PM PDT by zot (GWB -- the most slandered man of this decade)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

The left hates the swift vets because they presented a truth that destroyed the old media adulation spin.

The swift vets were able to bypass the media with a laser beam truth which evaporated the relavance of the old media.


Nobody needed CNN or abc or cbs or nbc to learn the truth.


The dinosaur media could have shut down and it would not have changed the outcome.


29 posted on 06/02/2006 9:06:15 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: stockstrader
Hmmmm....I wonder what their term is for CBS's use of 'forged papers' to sink the President's reelection?

"Journalism."

30 posted on 06/02/2006 9:08:51 PM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: zot
Heh! Very good.

Thanks, I'll be here all week.

31 posted on 06/02/2006 9:10:36 PM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: longtermmemmory
The left hates the swift vets because they presented a truth that destroyed the old media adulation spin.


32 posted on 06/02/2006 9:14:01 PM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: RWR8189
I love RET's reference to the Dodo. A more ridiculous-looking bird would be hard to find -- unless you looked at a democrat.

Imagine them trying to cast "swiftboating" as a hatemonger's tactic! What if Kerry's fight had been with Medal of Honor recipients (which, imo, is not too far from the reality)? Rats would be saying Kerry had been "medalofhonored" by those unscrupulous hatemongers known as Medal of Honor winners.

Democrats just don't have a clue.

33 posted on 06/02/2006 9:40:45 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: RWR8189

In the Army we used to say, "all the brothers were valiant, and all the sisters were virtuous". It was widely reported that as a matter of campaign strategy the President, Karl Rove and the RNC were going to give Kerry his due as a decorated Vietnam veteran, but that was not enough for the hate-mongers at the DNC and their media allies. They had to attempt to make Kerry look even better through slander and libel about the President's Air Guard service. In so doing, Kerry forfeited his presumption of honor and courage as a decorated "comrade in arms". Certainly his antiwar and "Winter Soldier" activities deserved the close public scrutiny they would not have gotten but for the "Swifties".


34 posted on 06/03/2006 12:21:39 AM PDT by pawdoggie
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SWIFTBOAT all liberals and socialists into the seas! WOO-HOO!
35 posted on 06/03/2006 1:57:31 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: pawdoggie; All

I think it has been demonstrated those who served honorably don't make it an "asset" issue in campaigns.

Kerry is an example of the "cashing in" military service. He is a new breed of lowlife who views military service as politician "free pass" ticket to legitimacy.

This is why I have zero respect for murtha, did you know he was a decorated miliary hero? Murtha, the deocrated miliary hero, is just using his service as a shield to justify his pork barrel left wing lunacy. If Murtha, the decoracted military hero, and Kerry, DID YOU KNOW HE SERVED IN VIETNAM AND REALLY REALLY REALLY spent chritmas in cambodia, did not have military service as a resume talking point they would be doped out hippies speaking to CNN like any other democrat.


36 posted on 06/03/2006 6:20:45 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: RWR8189

Here's a new political term I coined........."Roved" it means to be sold a lie by a political consultant, such as George Bush is conservative.


37 posted on 06/03/2006 6:26:52 AM PDT by StoneColdTaxHater
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To: longtermmemmory
A Gary Aldridge quote on this subject nailed it. "If a
decorated firefighter becomes an arsonist is he still a hero?"
38 posted on 06/03/2006 7:08:37 AM PDT by SAWTEX
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To: Interesting Times
Next time, you can whine that you were "wintersoldiered."

Kudos! I think you're on to something.

Kerry was:

'Windsurfed'
'Botoxed'
'Hairbrushed'
'Seared... Seared '
Mama-T'd'
'Form 180'd'
Your Daughter's a Lesbian'd'...

39 posted on 06/03/2006 7:19:00 AM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: shalom aleichem
He told his interviewer his magic hat from the CIA dude, was nearby, but it did not seem to interest her. I'd sure like to see it...

Here ya go...


40 posted on 06/03/2006 7:27:31 AM PDT by badgerlandjim (Hillary Clinton is to politics as Helen Thomas is to beauty)
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To: RWR8189

During the election campaign, I was finishing up a Home Theater /game room that included a rather extensive collection of movie posters.
After hanging a large black and white photo/poster of Janet Lee screaming in the shower on the wall next to the entrance of the guest bathroom, I added a banner I received from a freeper event in D.C.
It was red with white lettering......"FLUSH THE JOHNS" !!


41 posted on 06/03/2006 7:41:40 AM PDT by TET1968 (SI MINOR PLUS EST ERGO NIHIL SUNT OMNIA)
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To: RWR8189; Freee-dame
All this [going after the Swifties] sounds like political harassment to me, but as the shrinks are wont to say, "If it is true for you, it is true for you." For a certitude, left wing Democrats believe whatever they believe is true.

They lie to themselves. That is why they feel no shame when they perpetuate lies on national or local media interviews. That is why pointing out to them that they are speaking lies has zero effect on their brain's ability to process information.

42 posted on 06/03/2006 7:59:08 AM PDT by maica (Things may come to those who wait, but only the things left by those who hustle --Abraham Lincoln)
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To: RWR8189

Well, whenever a woman dies due to a man's selfishness I say she's been "Kennedy-ed."


43 posted on 06/03/2006 8:01:23 AM PDT by YourAdHere (Bradypalooza. Available at Amazon.Com)
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To: RWR8189
[ Swiftboating as hate term ]

It's good to know who hates you, and it's good to be hated by the right people - Johnny Cash

44 posted on 06/03/2006 8:26:52 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: magslinger
Oderint, dum metuant. Accius

I'm no Latin scholar, but I think this phrase belongs to Caligula.

45 posted on 06/03/2006 5:02:28 PM PDT by lancer (If you are not with us, you are against us!)
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To: RWR8189

Swiftboating = hate

War = Peace

Freedom = Slavery

Kerry is now, and always has been a liar and a hypocrite.

Why should he be different than all of the other democrats?


46 posted on 06/03/2006 5:06:53 PM PDT by Radix (Stop domestic violence. Beat abroad.)
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To: lancer
I'm no Latin scholar either, but I got it from a book of quotes attributing it to Lucius Accius. Did a search and found this.
47 posted on 06/03/2006 5:58:32 PM PDT by magslinger (WWJBD? What Would Jack Bauer Do?)
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To: magslinger

Thank you; I'm always learning something on FR!


48 posted on 06/03/2006 6:29:26 PM PDT by lancer (If you are not with us, you are against us!)
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