Canada Muslims condemn alleged bomb plot

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[The Lion Roars]

Canadian Muslim organizations have condemned an alleged plot to bomb Toronto-area buildings, while a lawyer for one of the 17 suspects in custody called the charges against them "vague."

"We are committed to the safety and security of Canada and Canadians," said Mohammad Alam, president of the Islamic Foundation of Toronto. "We of all Canadians are shocked at the recent arrests of young Muslim men and teenagers and the very serious allegation against them."

Canadian authorities rounded up a group of 17 Muslim men and boys suspected of plotting to bomb major buildings in the Toronto area, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police announced Saturday. Assistant Commissioner Mike McDonell said the group posed "a real and serious threat."

[The Lion Roars]

This is the art of Taqqiyah. Islam teaches its followers to lie when it is convenient and slaughter the kafirs when the time is right.

Canada is the next hub of terror. Pakistanis and Arabs have made that place a ticking time bomb.

[Recovering Ex-hippie]

I sure don't see them in the streets protesting these scum.

[GeorgiaDawg32]

"Galati identified his clients as Ahmad Ghany, 22, and Abdel Halim, 30. He said Ghany was a Canadian-born graduate of McMaster University with no criminal history."

if guilty, what better way to fly under the radar than to have no red flags..

[CrawDaddyCA]

"We of all Canadians are shocked at the recent arrests of young Muslim men and teenagers and the very serious allegation against them."

Shocked, I tell you, SHOCKED!!

This is a common Muslim practice, condemn in public in front of the cameras for all us infidels to see, and praise the terrorists in private.

[The Lion Roars]

A MUST READ

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http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina60530.htm

When Miss Ruby, a Muslim who had joined the forum of FFI about four months ago expressed her doubts about Islam, a few Muslims felt distressed. They send her private mails and messages urging her to quit visiting this site and return to Islam. "By leaving Deen al-Islam you made a huge mistake", wrote QuranSearch. "we are trying to make you a Muslim again, by educating you on your Deen. Firstly, my advice to you is this: Leave this Forum immediately!"



I said that once one learns the truth there is no way to unlearn it and that those who leave Islam will not go back.

Goku, another Muslim participant in the forum challenged my claim and nonchalantly wrote that there have been also apostates who have returned to Islam and that there is even a site created by ex-apostates: backtoislam.com.

I do not deny that some apostates might have returned to Islam. But the question is WHY. Why people leave Islam in the first place?

If they leave Islam because they like booze and women and they think Islam is restricting their liberties, you can bet that once they come to age and their children hit puberty they will want to return to a more controlling religion and that is Islam.

If they leave Islam for another religion without learning the evils of Islam, the chances are that they meet negativities in other religions and decide to return to Islam. This is not because they find Islam better. They return to Islam because they are ignorant of it while they have faced obstacles in the religion that they have embraced.

But if they leave Islam because they have seen the evilness of Muhammad and his imaginary Allah, there is no way that they would return to it unless they become possessed by demon (figuratively speaking), become filled with hate and find Islam a good vehicle to express that hate. This of course is possible but unlikely to happen.

What we are doing here is helping Muslims to see the truth. The apostates that we educate will never return to Islam unless they have some mental problem. No sane person would want to follow a man who lied, raped, murdered, and stole. No decent human being could even think of following a pervert sadist evil man like Muhammad. One must kill his conscience and disregard his humanity to return to Islam after learning the truth about Muhammad. How can one believe in a man who tortured his prisoners of war to death to make them reveal the whereabouts of their treasures and then slept with their young wives in the same night? How can one believe in a man who at the age of 54 fooled his best friend and loyal follower to let him have sex with his 9 year old daughter? The crimes committed by Muhammad are beyond description. One must be either ignorant or evil to follow such a monster. The ignorance is ending as the truth is spreading and since most Muslims are not evil the majority of them will leave Islam upon learning the truth..

This is the big difference between what we do and what happened to Muslims during the 1920s. In those days millions of Muslims left practicing Islam even though they still called themselves Muslim nominally. They embraced modernity and became westernized. This happened in Turkey , in Iran , in Egypt , in Tunis and in many Islamic countries. Why Islam came back with bigger venom? It’s because this snake was not beheaded. It lingered in the subconscious of people and once the glitter of the materialistic world faded, it came back with a vengeance.

What we are doing is completely different. We are beheading Islam. We are not trying to dismantle it from top to bottom brick by brick, but demolishing its foundation. Islam is built on a sandy terrain of lies. It will stay on its feet as long as those sands are shored safely underneath it. We are exposing its foundation and the sand is washing away. We are undermining Islam and it's only a matter of time for it to collapse.

This was never done before. As far as I know there has never been a systematic campaign by ex-Muslims to eradicate Islam in the history of this cult. This is the first time Islam is being attacked from its roots concertedly, systematically and methodically. This is possible now thanks to the Internet and the ease with which the apostates can find each other and create a grassroots movement with no peril to their lives. Enlightened people always existed who realized Islam is false. But most of them did not dare to speak and those who did paid with their lives and their message did not get across. If anyone saw that Islam is evil, he could not find any other person to corroborate his finding. He could even doubt his own intelligence and try to convince himself that he has made a mistake. This happened to me, until a friend handed me the book of Ali Dashti and I realized I am not going mad. Today, those who can see Islam is false, can also see that they are not alone and that millions of other Muslims are finding the same truth and are discovering that Islam is nothing but a hoax and a big fraud.

For the first time a movement is billowing that can’t be stopped. It is gathering the momentum of a massive tsunami. It is still undetectable. But once it swells, its power will be colossal. Once this tsunami hits the shores, it will destroy every trace of superstition, bigotry and religious ignorance and nothing of Islam will be left but a bitter memory. Islam, will meet Nazism and communism in the dustbin of history.

Now, don’t assume that FFI is THE movement and if you destroy FFI you have quashed that movement. FFI is only a café - a meeting place. The soldiers are all over the world. Some of them come here to chat and read the bulletins. Others do not even know such a place exists and yet they are at the forefront of this movement. This movement stretches across the globe and comprises millions of ex-Muslims from all walks of life and in all countries of the world. It has no head, no leader and no boundaries. You can say it is the antithesis of the Islamic terrorist machinery. Terrorists operate from underground. They can’t be found or defeated. They have no country, no base and no leader. Their mission is to destroy and to kill. The apostates also work from underground. They too are invisible and undefeatable. Their job is to spread the truth, to destroy the hate and to lead the Muslims out of this cult of hate and into the fold of humanity.

The truth is that no superpower can defeat Islamic terrorism. Fighting terrorists is like fighting ghosts. Because they are invisible and intangible you can’t beat them. No power, no military might can defeat an enemy that is invisible.

These evil ghosts can be defeated by their nemesis. We are ghosts too. But we are friendly ghosts. The terrorists represent darkness and evil while we bring light and goodness. They want to destroy mankind through hate and deception and we want to save it with love and truth. You can say this is a battle of ghosts. Only ghosts can defeat ghosts. At the end we will win, because light is more powerful than darkness and truth is more potent than lies.

[weegee]

Patel said the accused were innocent until proven guilty -- "But if they are proven guilty after being given due process, then this is a wake-up call -- especially for Muslim leaders -- that more must be done to make sure that our children do not get involved in activities that are contrary to the teachings of Islam."

This is HORSE$#!&, It is radical muslim leaders who ARE poisoning the minds of these followers.

Where is the condemnation of the rouge mosques that indoctrinate the jihadists (whether in North America or in the Middle East)?

Muslims continue to pretend that such followers pick up on such a detour from "true" Islam somewhere in a dark alley.

The ugly truth is that there is an Islamic supremacist movement working WITHIN established Islam even if it is contrary to the "teachings" of Islam, according to these clerics.

Instead they disavow these muslims and say "they don't follow true Islam" and that is that.

[weegee]

I sure don't see them in the streets protesting these scum.

They used up all their time off from work protesting the 12 cartoons.

[weegee]

Welcome to FR troll. Enjoy your ZOT.

[milford421]

I read the article, and I don't specifically see a condemnation.

[CrawDaddyCA]

Do yourself a favor...stay off the crack pipe.

[Dallas59]

Yeppers ...Now that cat is out of the bag....

[macamadamia]

You mean the Mexicans on one side and the Canadian Muslims on the other...and me right smack in the middle?

[weegee]

The muslim response is to issue a death sentence for any muslim who converts away from the faith.

The cult does not like deprogramming. In more ways than one.

Mohammed was "the last prophet" so there can be no reformation movement. To do so is to preach heresy.

And as Islam becomes more radicalized, there are greater calls to restrict or prohibit the practice of Islam. But the one sure trigger for jihad is when a nation prohibits the practice of Islam. So it is a vicious circle. There is no such tolerance required of other faiths in Islamic territories, however.

It is a supremacist ideology. All other people are considered sub-humans. It is why a muslim who converts to another faith is considered worse off than a non-muslim who follows that same faith. The muslim has fallen from on high. The non-muslim was never worthy in the first place.

Read through some "Ask The Imam" entries (their site was down earlier today when I went to it). You will find one proclamation that an Islamic man may marry a non-muslim woman if she converts to Islam but a muslim woman cannot marry a non-muslim man even if he converts.

And yet people in America are trying to expand the definition of marriage to two men or two women. They haven't even investigated that parts of this world still have problems with that one man, one woman thing.

[weegee]

It read like a Bill Clinton apology. "I'm sorry you misunderstood..."

[coconutt2000]

Too bad there is no ZOT file where one can go and read all the ZOT'd posts.

[TheCrusader]

"Canadian authorities rounded up a group of 17 Muslim men and boys suspected of plotting to bomb major buildings in the Toronto area,"

Long ago I used to help an inlaw in his pest control business. I learned from experience that when you kill 17 cockroaches there are at least 117 that you will never be aware of.

Canada is a liberal's paradise, which is an ideal atmosphere for radical muslims to live relatively unnoticed and unmolested by law enforcement, and to plot and plan attacks on Canada and America. Liberalism not only failed miserably as an ideal, but it has allowed our worst enemies to live amongst us and plot our destruction. And still there are many who just don't get it.

[milford421]

"It read like a Bill Clinton apology. "I'm sorry you misunderstood..."

Sure sounds like it to me too.

[milford421]

Very, very well said and absolutely true.

[caveat emptor]

I read the article, and I don't specifically see a condemnation.

No kidding. Just another puff piece to get out a headline as a talking point for the denialist muslims.