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It was only a matter of time (Canada terror bust - good conservative analysis)
National Post - Canada ^ | Mon 05 Jun 2006 | Lorne Gunter

Posted on 06/05/2006 10:30:46 AM PDT by GMMAC

It was only a matter of time

National Post
Mon 05 Jun 2006
Page: A17 , Section: Issues & Ideas
Byline: Lorne Gunter


It would have been chilling, perhaps even shocking, watching spokesmen for the RCMP, CSIS and four Toronto-area police forces describe the explosives, guns, detonators and assorted jihadi training material they said they seized last week when they arrested 17 terror suspects -- would have been ... if I hadn't suspected such a day would come all along.

It was only a matter of time.

Canada and Canadians are just lucky this massive criminal plot -- if that's what a court finds it to be -- was discovered in advance.

The only shocking thing is that so many Canadians seem to have been so surprised by the arrest of a cell of alleged homegrown terrorists. Did we honestly think this could never happen here? Did we really think the world's jihadis would fall for all our multicultural bumph about Canada being a tolerant society, and not attack us?

Do we really think jihadis want a tolerant, multicultural world? Tolerance is a Western ideal, and the Islamists hate Western ideals.

This radicalized minority within Islam doesn't seek multiculturalism. Their goal is monoculturalism: one world under radical Islam.

They are not at war for tolerance, but at war with tolerance.

The alleged wannabe terrorists swept up in a series of raids around Toronto on Friday don't have their hearts set on us carving out a place for them in Canadian society where they can live and pray and believe as they wish.

We could let Muslims practise sharia law within their own community and guarantee Muslim students and employees set-aside space at schools and work for their five-times-daily prayers, and still the jihadis among us would conspire to buy explosives and plot to blow up Canadian targets until we all agreed to live under sharia law and worship Allah at dawn, mid-morning, noon, mid-afternoon and dusk.

Radical Muslims are not interested in what we will let them do. "You do your thing and I'll do mine" is a Western notion. Jihadis are motivated by a desire to make everyone else in the world bow to Muhammad, too.

They are the new Crusaders; soldiers of their God, operating in hostile lands, whose mission it is to convert as many infidels as possible to their vision of one true faith, at the point of the sword if necessary.

We are their targets not because we have been insufficiently tolerant of Islam, but rather because in their minds we have been far too tolerant of non-Muslims. They are not at war just with Christianity and Judaism. So Canada cannot indemnify itself against attack by expunging its religious roots. Pluralism and secularism upset them just as much because those "isms," too, are an impediment to the creation of a worldwide Islamic empire.

The response of too much of officialdom to last week's revelations will be to call for redoubled efforts on behalf of pluralism: new anti-racism ad campaigns, more money for multicultural groups and festivals, new curricula in schools, more cultural sensitivity training for judges, politicians and bureaucrats.

But this would be like trying to combat obesity by dining at an all-you-can-eat buffet three times a day.

Meanwhile, others will call for the withdrawal of Canadian troops from Afghanistan. They will argue the presence of our soldiers doing war in a Muslim nation is behind the uncovered plot.

According to police and intelligence sources, though, the alleged terror cell began its scheming and planning more than two years ago, when our only presence in Afghanistan was a 700-strong contingent patrolling the relatively peaceful capital, Kabul, as part of a NATO peacekeeping force. In other words, this cell allegedly began scoping out Canadian targets, training and assembling its materials long before our current combat-oriented mission in Kandahar against al-Qaeda and the Taliban.

Does our current mission upset jihadis? Undoubtedly. But they allegedly were mad enough to blow up innocent Canadian civilians even before our mission changed. If our troops were not at war with Muslims, something else would be the provocation. It doesn't take much.

Indeed, there is precious little we can do or stop doing that would satisfy such enemies, short of Parliament passing a law declaring a mass conversion of Canadians to Islam.

The best we can do is continue to give the RCMP and the Canadian Security and Intelligence Service the money and manpower they need to run the surveillance and sting operations that led to Friday's arrests.

Lorne Gunter Columnist/Editorial Writer, National Post
Columnist, Edmonton Journal
Tele: (780) 916-0719 ~ E-mail: lgunter@shaw.ca



TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: canada; islam; islamofascism; jihadnextdoor; muslims; ontario; terrorism; toronto
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1 posted on 06/05/2006 10:30:51 AM PDT by GMMAC
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To: fanfan; Pikamax; Former Proud Canadian; Great Dane; Alberta's Child; headsonpikes; Ryle; ...

PING!
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2 posted on 06/05/2006 10:31:34 AM PDT by GMMAC (Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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To: GMMAC

FReepers have been predicting this for years.


3 posted on 06/05/2006 10:34:05 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Conservatism is moderate, it is the center, it is the middle of the road)
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To: GMMAC

He uses "allegedly" too much for my taste, but other than that, it's a good article.


4 posted on 06/05/2006 10:37:27 AM PDT by hsalaw
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To: GMMAC

bump


5 posted on 06/05/2006 10:38:47 AM PDT by lowbridge (I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming, like his passengers.)
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To: GMMAC

There is a reason I like the old Hollywood westerns. "The only good injun is a dead injun".


6 posted on 06/05/2006 10:56:38 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Afghan protest - "Death to Dog Washers!")
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To: TexasRepublic

We should just stop a minute and catch our breathes. Is my memory fading me or did the Up North people look down their icicled noses at us southern folk as to how they did not meddle and so on and how life up there was just,well--divine--even though they were secularized and few if any Christians were to be found. Plenty of muslims however. Now the question spoken from those thawing nosed faces appears to be, "How many times have we changed our soiled drawers in the fertilized turn of events this week?"


7 posted on 06/05/2006 11:11:01 AM PDT by edzuk
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To: hsalaw
"He uses "allegedly" too much ..."

Only twice by my count.
I post a fair bit of Lorne's stuff, know him fairly well & assume he simply doesn't want some shyster representing any of these vermin pointing at trial to anything he's written as an example media impropriety.
8 posted on 06/05/2006 11:13:30 AM PDT by GMMAC (Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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To: GMMAC
Indeed, there is precious little we can do or stop doing that would satisfy such enemies, short of Parliament passing a law declaring a mass conversion of Canadians to Islam.

Well, there's always "Invade their countries, kill their leaders, convert them to Christianity at gunpoint."

9 posted on 06/05/2006 11:35:28 AM PDT by HHFi
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To: edzuk
You mean being nice and one worldly with these poor misunderstood Muslim victims didn't work? Perhaps Canadians eat too much pork for the idiots to tolerate Canadian life much longer. Geez its all in good sport to blow up your host country to get your point across.

LISTEN UP. These A$$HOLES don't respond to playing nice. Are you awake yet?????? If 9/11 didn't serve as an example to you, perhaps this will. Or you can completely change your government, aka Spain. While this is not directed towards law abiding Muslims in Canada, you have to ask your self...why did they leave their homes to settle in Canada. Perhaps they understand the danger more than the liberals in your Country do?

WAKE UP.
10 posted on 06/05/2006 11:36:09 AM PDT by JohnD9207 (Lead...follow...or get the HELL out of the way!)
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To: HHFi
""Invade their countries, kill their leaders, convert them to Christianity at gunpoint."

There's good reason Ann's seldom too far wrong:



"common sense by association"

11 posted on 06/05/2006 11:42:16 AM PDT by GMMAC (Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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To: GMMAC

Meanwhile: http://news.yahoo.com/s/usatoday/20060605/cm_usatoday/sauditextbooksleavestudentsopentobinladensmessage;_ylt=A9FJqZ6Pg4RE89gAVg2s0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3YWFzYnA2BHNlYwM3NDI-


12 posted on 06/05/2006 12:21:57 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: BenLurkin
From your linked article:
"It has supported and poured money into the Wahhabi belief system and bolstered the idea that Saudi Arabia is the Vatican of Islam."

Yikes!
Stupid (or just as likely biased) msm!
Talk about making a point badly!
13 posted on 06/05/2006 1:10:57 PM PDT by GMMAC (Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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To: GMMAC; neverdem
Tolerance is a Western ideal, and the Islamists hate Western ideals.

This radicalized minority within Islam doesn't seek multiculturalism. Their goal is monoculturalism: one world under radical Islam.

They are not at war for tolerance, but at war with tolerance.

14 posted on 06/05/2006 2:14:49 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
Everything I Ever Needed to Know about Islam I Learned on 9/11.

15 posted on 06/05/2006 2:19:38 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: GMMAC

BIAS!


16 posted on 06/05/2006 2:20:45 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: GMMAC
Obviously countless numbers of non-Americans devoutly believe that if they just speak nice things to Islamo-fascist murderers, the latter will see reason and everyone will live in a wonderful, multi-cultural fantasy world. No clearer evidence of their myopia and absence of reality is available than the surprise of the lefties that they too are targets... just like the evil, nasty U.S.

I'm sure they've thought to themselves that they've made it abundantly clear to the Islamo-killers that they just want to be friends and live in peace and harmony. And can you believe it?... the Islamo-fascists still want to kill them!!! Oh, the horror.

17 posted on 06/05/2006 2:57:48 PM PDT by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: driftless
"Obviously countless numbers of non-Americans ..."

... along with, doubtless, a fair percentage of the 50+ million Americans who voted for John Kerry.

Neither citizenship nor geographic locale has much, if any, bearing on liberal denial and/or stupidity.
18 posted on 06/05/2006 3:22:36 PM PDT by GMMAC (Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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To: GMMAC

Good point.


19 posted on 06/05/2006 4:06:22 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: george76

say it again, FRiend!


20 posted on 06/05/2006 6:40:34 PM PDT by bitt ("Land of the Free, because of the Brave...")
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