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Writer Facing Jail For Mosque Threat (Oriana Fallaci)
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 6-7-2006 | Malcom Moore

Posted on 06/06/2006 6:25:30 PM PDT by blam

Writer facing jail for mosque threat

By Malcolm Moore in Milan
(Filed: 07/06/2006)

The Italian author Oriana Fallaci, who once wrote that Muslims "breed like rats", may be facing up to three years in prison after she vowed to blow up a mosque.

Ms Fallaci, 75, who has cancer, is due to appear in court next week charged with the lesser offence of vilifying Islam, punishable with a £3,450 fine.

But after her latest outburst in the New Yorker last week Muslim leaders are demanding that she be tried for inciting religious hatred, which carries a three-year jail term.

The former journalist, who has said she will not attend Monday's hearing in Bergamo, told the magazine that she intended to destroy a mosque being built at Colle di Val d'Elsa, near Siena.

"I do not want to see a 24-metre minaret in the landscape of Giotto when I cannot even wear a cross or carry a Bible in their country, so I blow it up!" she said. In a trilogy of books published after the attacks of September 11, Ms Fallaci lamented the Islam "invasion" into Europe.

Judge Armando Grasso ruled in a preliminary hearing that Ms Fallaci had made 18 statements "offensive to Islam and Muslims".

Following her most recent comments, Adel Smith, the president of the Italian Muslim Union, said he would press for the sterner charge of inciting religious hatred.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: breedlikerats; facing; fallaci; jail; jihadnextdoor; mosque; oriana; shouldajustdoneit; threat; writer
They've been after her for years.
1 posted on 06/06/2006 6:25:34 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

A.B.P.


2 posted on 06/06/2006 6:26:57 PM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: blam; ZULU; nicmarlo
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Oriana Fallaci, a hero of Freedom.


"Vilifying islam" is not a crime, but a proclamation of truth.

3 posted on 06/06/2006 6:31:52 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (God Bless Our Troops...including U.S. Border Patrol, America's First Line of Defense)
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To: blam

I've read her work. She is on trial for telling the truth.

She's a VERY brave woman.

Italy should be ashamed.


4 posted on 06/06/2006 6:35:47 PM PDT by EternalHope (Boycott everything French forever. Including their vassal nations.)
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To: blam

Sort of the Italian Ann Coulter.


5 posted on 06/06/2006 6:35:47 PM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: blam
Read her screed in this month's New Yorker Here.

It's outstanding.

6 posted on 06/06/2006 6:36:52 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: blam

Isn't she living in the U.S. right now? If so, they'd have quite a time of it trying to drag her to Italy.


7 posted on 06/06/2006 6:36:59 PM PDT by coydog (Cowardice does not make you safe. It makes you a safe target. - - Dale Amon)
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To: billorites
Here's a taste of her wrath...

Fallaci sees the threat of Islamic fundamentalism as a revival of the Fascism that she and her sisters grew up fighting. She told me, “I am convinced that the situation is politically substantially the same as in 1938, with the pact in Munich, when England and France did not understand a thing. With the Muslims, we have done the same thing.” She elaborated, in an e-mail, “Look at the Muslims: in Europe they go on with their chadors and their burkas and their djellabahs. They go on with the habits preached by the Koran, they go on with mistreating their wives and daughters. They refuse our culture, in short, and try to impose their culture, or so-called culture, on us. . . . I reject them, and this is not only my duty toward my culture. Toward my values, my principles, my civilization. It is not only my duty toward my Christian roots. It is my duty toward freedom and toward the freedom fighter I am since I was a little girl fighting as a partisan against Nazi-Fascism. Islamism is the new Nazi-Fascism. With Nazi-Fascism, no compromise is possible. No hypocritical tolerance. And those who do not understand this simple reality are feeding the suicide of the West.”

Fallaci refuses to recognize the limitations of this metaphor—say, the fact that Muslim immigration is not the same as an annexation by another state. And although European countries should indeed refuse to countenance certain cultural practices—polygamy, “honor killings,” and anti-Semitic teachings, for example—Fallaci tends to portray the worst practices of Islamic fundamentalists as representative of all Muslims. Certainly, European countries have made some foolish compromises in the name of placating Muslim residents. In Germany, where courts have ordered that Muslim religious instruction be offered in schools, just as Christian instruction is, critics have complained that the Islamic teaching often perpetuates a conservative version of Islam. The result, the historian Bernard Lewis argued, in a recent talk in Washington, is that “Islam as taught in Turkish schools is a sort of modernized, semi-secularized version of Islam, and Islam as taught in German schools is the full Wahhabi blast.” (This is a good reminder of why the American model of keeping religious instruction out of public schools facilitates assimilation.) Many of Fallaci’s objections, however, have more to do with her aesthetic sensibilities. For her, hearing Muslim prayers in Tuscany—she does her own wailing imitation—is a form of oppression. Yet such examples do not rise to the level of argument that she wants to make, which is that the native culture of Italy will collapse if Muslims keep immigrating.

“They live at our expense, because they’ve got schools, hospitals, everything,” she said at one point, beginning to shout. “And they want to build damn mosques everywhere.” She spoke of a new mosque and Islamic center planned for Colle di Val d’Elsa, near Siena. She vowed that it would not remain standing. “If I’m alive, I will go to my friends in Carrara—you know, where there is the marble. They are all anarchists. With them, I take the explosives. I make you juuump in the air. I blow it up! With the anarchists of Carrara. I do not want to see this mosque—it’s very near my house in Tuscany. I do not want to see a twenty-four-metre minaret in the landscape of Giotto. When I cannot even wear a cross or carry a Bible in their country! So I BLOW IT UP! ”

The magnificently rebellious Oriana Fallaci now cultivates, it seems, the prejudices of the petite bourgeoisie. She is opposed to abortion, unless she “were raped and made pregnant by a bin Laden or a Zarqawi.” She is fiercely opposed to gay marriage (“In the same way that the Muslims would like us all to become Muslims, they would like us all to become homosexuals”), and suspicious of immigration in general. The demonstrations by immigrants in the United States these past few months “disgust” her, especially when protesters displayed the Mexican flag. “I don’t love the Mexicans,” Fallaci said, invoking her nasty treatment at the hands of Mexican police in 1968. “If you hold a gun and say, ‘Choose who is worse between the Muslims and the Mexicans,’ I have a moment of hesitation. Then I choose the Muslims, because they have broken my balls.”

8 posted on 06/06/2006 6:40:45 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: coydog

I guess Italy is beyond hope.
This lady has a valid point, If Christians cant wear a cross in a muslim country whay are we allowing mosques in christian countries.

She has cancer and is 75 years old , find her a suicide belt and turn her loose.


9 posted on 06/06/2006 6:42:26 PM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: billorites

Bless you. Has this been posted as a thread yet?


10 posted on 06/06/2006 6:42:27 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (God Bless Our Troops...including U.S. Border Patrol, America's First Line of Defense)
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To: billorites
Minor point billo, but the New Yorker is a weekly.

Nice to see ya, by the way.

(steely)

11 posted on 06/06/2006 6:45:42 PM PDT by Steely Tom
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To: blam
Oriana Fallaci, who once wrote that Muslims "breed like rats",

Rats everywhere immediately rose up in protest at the comparison.

12 posted on 06/06/2006 6:49:14 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: billorites
Fallaci BTT.
13 posted on 06/06/2006 6:49:16 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: billorites

What I want to know is why the hell she, and those like her, don't publish any of their work online?

Many of the frontline defenders of western civilization seem to think the internet is just for advertising hardcopies of their work.

HELLO?! I'll spend money on the internet before I trek to a Barnes & Nobel every time.


14 posted on 06/06/2006 6:53:19 PM PDT by papertyger (Evil preys on civility.)
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To: EternalHope

"Italy should be ashamed. "

Don't they know that they have free speech in the EU????

This has already start here. Heck in Canada they are apologizing to muslims for having to arrest some of them before they killed any of us.


15 posted on 06/06/2006 6:56:17 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: blam

are demanding that she be tried for inciting religious hatred.

But these socialist politically correct aholes would never admit to whats being preached in the mosques.


16 posted on 06/06/2006 6:56:18 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: blam
Muslims "breed like rats". I'm opposed to language like this. It gives rats a bad name. I prefer "breed like cockroaches"...yuk yuk yuk
17 posted on 06/06/2006 6:59:41 PM PDT by Lancer_N3502A
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To: blam

I am saddened to see Oriana Fallaci being hounded from her native land. But I am heartened at her strength and bravery.


18 posted on 06/06/2006 7:10:18 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: blam
"I do not want to see a 24-metre minaret in the landscape of Giotto when I cannot even wear a cross or carry a Bible in their country, so I blow it up!" she said. In a trilogy of books published after the attacks of September 11, Ms Fallaci lamented the Islam "invasion" into Europe.

She does have a valid point!

Judge Armando Grasso ruled in a preliminary hearing that Ms Fallaci had made 18 statements "offensive to Islam and Muslims".

A good little dhimmi judge!

Following her most recent comments, Adel Smith, the president of the Italian Muslim Union, said he would press for the sterner charge of inciting religious hatred.

And the aggrieved victimized Muslim - is there any other kind?

19 posted on 06/06/2006 7:13:30 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: coydog

She's living in New York and I doubt she has any intention to return to Italy.


20 posted on 06/06/2006 7:16:12 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: blam
Adel Smith, the president of the Italian Muslim Union

Can this phrase possibly make sense?


21 posted on 06/06/2006 7:16:33 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (Illegal Aliens will take down the Democrats and Republicans and give rise to a new American party)
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To: papertyger

You can buy all her work at Amazon.....


22 posted on 06/06/2006 7:17:24 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: blam
Things blow up all the time.

If you don't believe me, ask a muslim.

23 posted on 06/06/2006 7:17:31 PM PDT by airborne (Satan's greatest trick was convincing people he doesn't exist.)
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To: EternalHope

bttt


24 posted on 06/06/2006 7:20:43 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: blam

Oriana is an Italian hero of this war. Her books and articles paint Islam for what it is - something the politically correct Europeans do not know how to handle.


25 posted on 06/06/2006 7:21:05 PM PDT by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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To: Rummyfan
You can buy all her work at Amazon.....

As paper...Guess I should have been more precise. Downloadable publication is the way to go.

26 posted on 06/06/2006 7:23:26 PM PDT by papertyger (Evil preys on civility.)
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To: billorites
Excellent article. I'll excerpt this part:

"According to Fallaci, Europeans, particularly those on the political left, subject people who criticize Muslim customs to a double standard. “If you speak your mind on the Vatican, on the Catholic Church, on the Pope, on the Virgin Mary or Jesus or the saints, nobody touches your ‘right of thought and expression.’ But if you do the same with Islam, the Koran, the Prophet Muhammad, some son of Allah, you are called a xenophobic blasphemer who has committed an act of racial discrimination. If you kick the ass of a Chinese or an Eskimo or a Norwegian who has hissed at you an obscenity, nothing happens. On the contrary, you get a ‘Well done, good for you.’ But if under the same circumstances you kick the ass of an Algerian or a Moroccan or a Nigerian or a Sudanese, you get lynched.” The rhetoric of Fallaci’s trilogy is intentionally intemperate and frequently offensive: in the first volume, she writes that Muslims “breed like rats”; in the second, she writes that this statement was “a little brutal” but “indisputably accurate.” She ascribes behavior to bloodlines—Spain, she writes, has been overly acquiescent to Muslim immigrants because “too many Spaniards still have the Koran in the blood”—and her political views are often expressed in the language of disgust. Images of soiling recur in the books: at one point in “The Rage and the Pride” she complains about Somali Muslims leaving “yellow streaks of urine that profaned the millenary marbles of the Baptistery” in Florence. “Good Heavens!” she writes. “They really take long shots, these sons of Allah! How could they succeed in hitting so well that target protected by a balcony and more than two yards distant from their urinary apparatus?” Six pages later, she describes urine streaks in the Piazza San Marco, in Venice, and wonders if Muslim men will one day “shit in the Sistine Chapel.”

27 posted on 06/06/2006 7:23:57 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
As an aside, Siena is one of my favorite cities in the world. It just wouldn't seem right to look out from the old town and see a minaret.

The Italians should make a deal with the Saudis: one mosque in Italy for every Church built in Saudi and every Bible distributed.

Do you know why the Muzzies won't allow other religions in their countries?

Because it would be the end of Islam!

28 posted on 06/06/2006 7:26:55 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Rummyfan

Has someone asked who is "Islam" that they are offended? Has someone asked if Islam is offensive to Christians, or Italians?


29 posted on 06/06/2006 7:27:28 PM PDT by donmeaker (Burn the UN flag publicly.)
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To: Rummyfan

Has someone asked who is "Islam" that they are offended? Has someone asked if Islam is offensive to Christians, or Italians?


30 posted on 06/06/2006 7:27:33 PM PDT by donmeaker (Burn the UN flag publicly.)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

Adel Smith, the president of the Italian Muslim Union

Can this phrase possibly make sense?




Allah Gombatz!


31 posted on 06/06/2006 7:30:10 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: blam

Oriana Fallaci on Anti-Semitism

http://www.netanyahu.org/orfalonan.html

Must read for Christians (especially Catholics) The lies and hatred are beyond words.


32 posted on 06/06/2006 7:30:32 PM PDT by CaptObe
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To: blam
"Ms Fallaci had made 18 statements "offensive to Islam and Muslims".

-- -- --

So WHO determined that these 18 statements were "offensive", and why? Can a statement of truth still be considered offensive in Italy?

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Oriana Fallaci

33 posted on 06/06/2006 7:33:23 PM PDT by HighWheeler (Outside of the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the country. - Marion Barry)
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To: blam

I am currently about halfway through "Force of Reason." I am finding it every bit as powerful as "The Rage and The Pride".

Fallaci is one of my heroes.


34 posted on 06/06/2006 7:34:07 PM PDT by wolf24 ("It's always easy to rally the stupid.")
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To: blam

bump for later


35 posted on 06/06/2006 8:04:28 PM PDT by FierceDraka ("I am not a number - I am a FREE MAN!")
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To: billorites
Fallaci refuses to recognize the limitations of this metaphor—say, the fact that Muslim immigration is not the same as an annexation by another state.

If only this were true. Unfortunately in Europe, Muslims are not just the latest group of immigrants wanting to adopt a new country while practicing their faith unmolested. In France, Britain and the Netherlands, they want to be more equal than anyone else. They want to impose sharia law in London and Paris. Fallaci, as a European, knows this, and is also aware that liberal European governments have a history of caving under pressure.

Yes, she is the European Ann Coulter, and I for one wouldn't have it any other way.

36 posted on 06/06/2006 8:06:05 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: billorites
Wow!
How can anyone not admire this woman?
37 posted on 06/06/2006 8:11:51 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: blam

"is due to appear in court next week charged with the lesser offence of vilifying Islam"

How is that possible, to villify Islam?


38 posted on 06/13/2006 6:52:51 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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