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To: Jameison

'Fox competes with the BBC?
In what country is that at?
BBC news doesn't even appear on the radar screen in this country.
The BBC doesn't need a rant from anyone to prove how biased and nasty they are.
Their craven acts speak for themselves.'

Yes Fox competes with the BBC - Rupert Murdochs news international owns fox and they compete worldwide with the BBC. Obviously RM wants to stop the BBC before it appears on your radar.

'After all, it was the BBC that claimed Americans troops were not at Baghdad Airport during the Iraq War, long after American troops had captured the place.
Turns out the BBC "journalist" who was filing that report, one fiber named Andrew Gilligan, was not even at the Baghdad Airport at all, when he claimed he was, on air.'

You don't even chew before you swallow Murdochs nonsense do you? Here's a link from an independent investigation of how Fox lied about what Andrew Gilligan said and refused to correct their lies:

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/tv/obb/prog_cb/pcb_11/upheld_cases

'That word "sophisticated" again. You mean "sophisticated like the BBC that pimps socialism and trashes America?'

No, I mean sophisticated like people who may not like the BBC, but are smart enough to know when Rupert Murdoch has told one of his lackies to put the boot in to further his own empire.


60 posted on 06/07/2006 5:01:24 AM PDT by Vectorian
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To: Vectorian
"Rupert Murdochs news international owns fox and they compete worldwide with the BBC. Obviously RM wants to stop the BBC before it appears on your radar. "

Yes Murdoch's News International owns Fox News, but the point is, the BBC has been on PBS for ages, and hardly anyone watches it.
It's not like the BBC is not here.
Its just so insignificant, that it simply doesn't even appear on any charts of news that I know.

Extract:

"The truth is that during the war many Americans turned away from the BBC. Fox's Zimmerman provided me with authoritative Nielsen stats that show BBC-America's primetime audience falling from 93,000 households in February to 88,000 in March. At the same time, the audience for Fox nearly doubled from 1.7 million to 3.2 million.

Americans weren't the only ones to drift away from the BBC. Krugman Truth Squad member Matthew Hoy reminded us on his blog, Hoystory.com, that the "crew of the British aircraft carrier Ark Royal turned off the BBC and switched to Rupert Murdoch's Sky News." That's right, the same Rupert Murdoch whose News Corporation owns Fox. Hoy continued: "According to a 'senior rating' on the Ark Royal: 'The BBC always takes the Iraqis' side. It reports what they say as gospel but when it comes to us it questions and doubts everything the British and Americans are reporting. A lot of people on board are very unhappy.'" "


Americans can recognize British BS when they see one. We don't need RM to tell us not to watch the British BS Corporation anti-American propaganda trying to pass off as news.
66 posted on 06/07/2006 7:41:36 AM PDT by Jameison
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To: Vectorian
"No, I mean sophisticated like people who may not like the BBC, but are smart enough to know when Rupert Murdoch has told one of his lackies to put the boot in to further his own empire. "

Nope.
Like I said in my previous post, Americans are smart enough to see anti-American propaganda and BS from the British when they see one.
We don't need anyone to tell us that.
We have eyes and ears.
67 posted on 06/07/2006 7:44:20 AM PDT by Jameison
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To: Vectorian

Link for previous post:

http://www.nationalreview.com/nrof_luskin/luskin051403.asp


68 posted on 06/07/2006 7:46:59 AM PDT by Jameison
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To: Vectorian
"You don't even chew before you swallow Murdochs nonsense do you? Here's a link from an independent investigation of how Fox lied about what Andrew Gilligan said and refused to correct their lies: "

Yeah?
Here's the link about how the BBC and Andrew Giligan, lied, and lied, and kept right on lying about American troops when the Iraq war started.

http://www.nationalreview.com/nr_comment/nr_comment072903.asp

Extract:
"Saturday, April 5: this will be the day most people will remember as the day when the journalistic standards of the World Service committed suicide. The BBC's bad day in Baghdad started early: A column of U.S. soldiers had entered southwestern Baghdad just after daybreak. The soldiers — in tanks and armored personnel carriers — drove through the city for several kilometers encountering only sporadic resistance. Near the university, the column turned left, drove out of the capital and parked at the international airport, which was already securely in American hands. In Qatar, the Coalition command center announced the incursion, saying that elements of the 3rd Infantry had gone into the center of Baghdad. At first, the maneuver was reported as a grab for urban territory. Later, more accurate reports, however, said that it was a demonstration by the U.S. that it could and would enter Baghdad at will.

Cut to: Andrew Gilligan, the BBC's man in downtown Baghdad. "I'm in the center of Baghdad," said a very dubious Gilligan, "and I don't see anything...But then the Americans have a history of making these premature announcements." Gilligan was referring to a military communiqué from Qatar the day before saying the Americans had taken control of most of Baghdad's airport. When that happened, Gilligan had told World Service listeners that he was there, at the airport — but the Americans weren't. Gilligan inferred that the Americans were lying. An hour or two later, a different BBC correspondent pointed out that Gilligan wasn't at the airport, actually. He was nearby — but apparently far enough away that the other correspondent felt it necessary to mention that he didn't really know if Gilligan was around, but that no matter what Gilligan had seen or not seen, the airport was firmly and obviously in American hands.
.............................................................

I turned off the TV, had a cup of coffee with my friend, and returned home. After a half hour or so — call me crazy — I once again tuned into the World Service. By now, I wasn't so much interested in how the war was going. I knew American troops weren't trapped anywhere. But the BBC had trapped itself in a big hole, and I wanted to see how they'd get out of it."
71 posted on 06/07/2006 8:10:49 AM PDT by Jameison
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