Skeletons found at Army Ranger site

AP via Yahoo ^ | Mon Jun 5, 2006 | CHRIS CAROLA

[xcamel]

The militant state academe sent the police in to stop the dig "Because the Fullers aren't professional archaeologists". They [State Museum et al] are so afraid that there will be a find that doesn't fit with "established history", that they will go th any length to control a dig site - regardless of it's private property location.

I have had a personal experience with this - an 11-15KY old stone tool - not flint - along with several others - including a flint/chert mine - that I refuse to give them the location of.

[Kirkwood]

What is it about RIP that some people don't understand? This is a good reason for being cremated. I wouldn't want someone digging me up in a couple hundred years. Go dig up dinosaurs or trilobites if you want to dig up the dead.

[FlipWilson]

Actually, he tried to sell his services to the Americans, but they didn't trust him because he had been loyal to the King during the French and Indian War. The English would not trust him because he had served with, commanded and advocated for, the American Colonists during the French and Idian War. In the end, he was caught between two worlds.

Back to this article. It is my hope that the State of New York or some philanthropist will buy the island and surrounding land and rebuild the actual fort as a historical re-construction at the "Great Carrying Place."

[dfwgator]

For a second there, I thought they had found Jimmy Hoffa.

[steve-b]

Interesting displacement of the gonad bones. Wonder how that would be explained.

Death by snu-snu?

[NonValueAdded]

Kudos to owner Nastasi for abandoning development plans and considering a park instead. While there might be some professional jealousy in Starbuck's comments, he does have a point. Congrats to the Fullers for finding the cemetery; now leave it the hell alone. Use ground-penetrating radar to determine its extent and perhaps one or two sanctioned exhumations (with reburial in exactly the same place) to confirm its date, but let our dead rest in peace. I might have relatives buried there!

[oyez]

Do know how tell if a Republican is dead?

When he dies, he starts voting Democratic.

[Hegemony Cricket]

GGG?

[Cinnamon]

original Abu Graib found? Secret CIA Jail?

[NavyCanDo]

I find this story interesting. Love digging up history - so to speak.

My GGGG Grandfather was a wagon master with General Braddock during the French Indian war and was at Braddocks defeat in 1755, escaping only with his horses. He later fought in the Revolution fighting the bloody loyalist at Kings Mountain.

[xzins]

The best book on the history of this period is Alan Ekert's "Wilderness Empire." He gives some great details on Roger's Rangers and on this very area in question.

Eckert is probably the most readable real historian I've ever run across.

Incidentally, his history on the frontier with Simon Kenton in a starring role should be of interest to anyone named "Kenton." It is another absolutely gripping history. "The Frontiersman."

[Tamar1973]

Actually, he tried to sell his services to the Americans, but they didn't trust him because he had been loyal to the King during the French and Indian War.

I find that hard to believe. After all, George Washington was "loyal to the King" during the French and Indian War as well and was still allowed to serve later for the Revolution. There was something else going on.

[hedgetrimmer]

It was on the island, in 1757, where Rogers wrote his "Rules of Ranging," a manual on guerrilla warfare that became a blueprint for modern Army Ranger fighting tactics. His original 28 rules have been boiled down over the years into the 19 "Standing Orders" taught to today's Army commandos.

This is fascinating. Are you familiar with the "Rules of Ranging"?

[usurper]

Let our dead rest in peace.

Agreed, I don’t have a major problem with them excavating the site so long as they don’t remove or disturb any remains. When finished they should appropriately mark the graves.

[rattrap]

What's with all the pics of Ann Coulter on this thread?

[SunkenCiv]

You're most welcome. Nice topic.

[SaveUS]

"I have had a personal experience with this - an 11-15KY old stone tool - not flint - along with several others - including a flint/chert mine - that I refuse to give them the location of."

Yep, you are a criminal if you find anything, but they can rape any burial site they find then build a road over it leaving behind the less interesting items. And if you are walking along that new road and find anything they left behind, don't pick it up! You will get a free trip to jail for destroying historical information. Georgia Laws, you got to love'em.

[Old_Mil]

It was on the island, in 1757, where Rogers wrote his "Rules of Ranging," a manual on guerrilla warfare that became a blueprint for modern Army Ranger fighting tactics. His original 28 rules have been boiled down over the years into the 19 "Standing Orders" taught to today's Army commandos.

This is fascinating. Are you familiar with the "Rules of Ranging"?

It is fascinating...and I would be curious to know what they are just for the sake of knowing. Assuming that you don't have to kill me if you tell me. :)

[Kenton]

The best book on the history of this period is Alan Ekert's "Wilderness Empire." He gives some great details on Roger's Rangers and on this very area in question. Eckert is probably the most readable real historian I've ever run across. Incidentally, his history on the frontier with Simon Kenton in a starring role should be of interest to anyone named "Kenton." It is another absolutely gripping history. "The Frontiersman."

Yes, I've read the book. I'm also a living history reenactor, and every September I go take part in the Simon Kenton Fronier Festival in Maysville, Kentucky. I've been fortunate enough to make the acquaintance of a number of both Simon Kenton's and Simon Girty's present-day descendants.

Here's a link to a review I wrote about it back in 1997, along with some pics of me "time-tripping".