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Nuclear reactors 'evolve' inside supercomputers
New Scientist ^ | 09 June 2006 | Tom Simonite

Posted on 06/09/2006 8:39:24 AM PDT by orionblamblam

Nuclear reactors could be built more efficiently using supercomputers to artificially "evolve" designs, say engineers from the US Department of Energy's Oak Ridge National Laboratory in Tennessee.

They have found they can speed up the extremely complex process of designing a reactor and generate novel designs from scratch by simulating natural selection.

Designing a nuclear reactor normally involves input from various specialists and the resulting structure can be uniquely influenced by this collaborative process.

"The design that comes out of this lengthy process is typically sub-optimal," says Louis Qualls, a nuclear systems specialist at Oak Ridge National Laboratory. "If you started with a different person, or designed pieces in a different order, you would get a different system."

Natural selection Qualls and his colleagues were looking for a more efficient design approach and found inspiration in biological evolution. They used software tools known as genetic algorithms to evolve different reactor designs. Similar algorithms are already used in many different fields to evolve highly efficient solutions to particular problems.

The algorithms they created first produce a population of reactor designs by randomising all the different design factors involved. Each design is then tested in a simulation for its "fitness", measuring its performance efficiency, running cost, safety and other parameters.

The designs that perform best are singled out for survival. They are mutated and recombined to create the next generation of designs. After many cycles, the potential of the most refined designs is evaluated by engineers.

"[Simulated evolution] will come up with some systems we would just never have thought of," Qualls says. "It won't replace the experts or come up with a finished design, but it makes it possible to consider options they wouldn't have had otherwise."

Safety first The parameters used to decide which designs survive can also be tweaked to meet different overall criteria. "If I were a businessman I'd want to make the most profit," explains Qualls. "But a safety engineer would want one that is least likely to break down."

Qualls's team has used the approach to help design the reactor for a NASA spacecraft designed to one day travel to the asteroid belt. In this case, weight was the main design concern.

Andy Keane, an independent genetic algorithms expert at Southampton University, UK, says this approach has already proven useful in other fields of engineering.

But for very complex problems, such as nuclear reactor design, he says it is important to combine genetic algorithms with sophisticated methods of simulation and analysis. "Research is now focused on integrating genetic algorithms with other techniques and more powerful computation," Keane says. "This means we can produce more complete designs."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: creationbashing; crevo; energy; evofanaticism; evolution; nuclear; nuke; reactor
Nukes evolve.
1 posted on 06/09/2006 8:39:27 AM PDT by orionblamblam
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To: orionblamblam

This was it's final output..........optimal INTELLIGENT design......

2 posted on 06/09/2006 8:44:10 AM PDT by Red Badger (Liberals ignore criminal behavior, reward sloth and revere incompetence...........)
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To: orionblamblam

Great, that means my teen age neighbor will be writing the code and debugging the BETA version by next week...


3 posted on 06/09/2006 8:44:51 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading the article since 2004)
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To: orionblamblam; atomicpossum

that's all we need - self breeding nukes!


4 posted on 06/09/2006 8:45:22 AM PDT by camle (Keep your mind open and somebody will fill if full of something for you.)
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To: orionblamblam

Genetic algorithms are awesome. I've used some for puzzle-solving, basically sort of a smart recursion. Of course, doing a nuclear reactor simulation at each step in the recursion goes way beyond the processing power I've ever needed.


5 posted on 06/09/2006 9:13:59 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Red Badger

> optimal INTELLIGENT design......

Not very intelligent. It's a very buggy design. If the Sun was engineered, it would be better. But being a product of natural stellar evolution, it's just one step along the way.


6 posted on 06/09/2006 9:17:22 AM PDT by orionblamblam (I'm interested in science and preventing its corruption, so here I am.)
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To: antiRepublicrat

> Genetic algorithms are awesome.

Yup. Much can be gained by applying the lessons that science has learned, such as the discovery of evolution.


7 posted on 06/09/2006 9:18:50 AM PDT by orionblamblam (I'm interested in science and preventing its corruption, so here I am.)
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To: orionblamblam
If the Sun was engineered, it would be better.

Yep, a lot of stuff in nature isn't very optimal. At least in this case they are intelligently selecting for specific traits. Sort of like selectively breeding a hundred generations of cows from a herd to get more milk out of them, just a lot faster.

8 posted on 06/09/2006 9:22:30 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: orionblamblam
The algorithms they created first produce a population of reactor designs by randomising all the different design factors involved

Ooooh, there's that Diiiiiirty word, "random." I honestly think for creationists "random" is a more negative word than "evil."

9 posted on 06/09/2006 10:10:53 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: orionblamblam
"Nuclear reactors could be built more efficiently using supercomputers to artificially "evolve" designs, say engineers from the US Department of Energy's Oak Ridge National Laboratory in Tennessee. "

I should point out that nuclear design has been reduced to people sitting behind computer screens, and having read some of books, thinking they really do know something about reactor engineering! Believe me, there is a big difference between designing it and then doing it.

In our society, people think they know something because they read a book, or they are someplace that somehow lends some sort of creditability to the nonsense that comes out of their mouths.

Yesterday I couldn't spell inga-neer, today I are one (and I didn't even have to leave my ca'puter).
10 posted on 06/09/2006 10:36:59 AM PDT by Herakles (Liberals are stone stupid and proud of it!)
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To: orionblamblam
"They have found they can speed up the extremely complex process of designing a reactor and generate novel designs from scratch by simulating natural selection."

Well, if this doesn't prove evolotion, I don't know what does! ;)

11 posted on 06/09/2006 10:45:24 AM PDT by RobRoy
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To: RobRoy

> if this doesn't prove evolotion, I don't know what does! ;)

That's the problem with the American educational system. it produces people who think that, in science, "proof" can be had... and, worse, people who think that isthey don't understand how some complex natural phenomena came to be, then it must be due to magic.


12 posted on 06/09/2006 11:02:47 AM PDT by orionblamblam (I'm interested in science and preventing its corruption, so here I am.)
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To: orionblamblam

>>That's the problem with the American educational system. it produces people who think that, in science, "proof" can be had... and, worse, people who think that isthey don't understand how some complex natural phenomena came to be, then it must be due to magic.<<

Interesting comment, but I was making a joke.

Lighten up man! :)


13 posted on 06/09/2006 11:20:23 AM PDT by RobRoy
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To: orionblamblam

Rather than evolving, developing should be used. A child could become more knowledgable as he grows up, but he does not evolve into a new creature. Plus, who put crevo into the keyword area (rhetorical)? This article could have gone on without bringing conflict into thread.


14 posted on 06/10/2006 12:03:47 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu (www.answersingenesis.org)
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experimenting &eacute &iacute &aacute &nacute &aring &ntilda


15 posted on 06/10/2006 12:09:42 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu (www.answersingenesis.org)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
experimenting é í ó á ú å
16 posted on 06/10/2006 12:19:46 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu (www.answersingenesis.org)
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To: PatrickHenry
Simulated Evolutionary / Genetic Algorithms in practical use.

For your Science ping list?

Cheers!

17 posted on 06/10/2006 6:34:03 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: orionblamblam
Very interesting. Alas, we had a thread on this work at Oak Ridge about a month ago:
ORNL [Oak Ridge Nat'l Lab] engineers take page out of nature's playbook.
18 posted on 06/10/2006 8:01:36 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Unresponsive to trolls, lunatics, fanatics, retards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: orionblamblam

19 posted on 06/10/2006 8:21:01 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: orionblamblam

http://www.renedaalder.com/img/pdf/gehry.pdf


20 posted on 06/10/2006 9:30:00 AM PDT by RightWingAtheist (Creationism is to conservatism what Howard Dean is to liberalism)
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