Posted on 06/13/2006 5:10:20 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
Hopes for a quick compromise on immigration were dealt a blow Tuesday after House Speaker Dennis Hastert said he wanted to take a "long look" at a Senate bill offering possible citizenship to millions of illegal immigrants.
Hastert said hearings on the Senate bill should be held before appointing anyone to a House-Senate committee to negotiate a compromise immigration bill. Later, he said he was unsure what the House's next move would be.
"We're going to take a long look at it," Hastert said late Tuesday.
House Majority Leader John Boehner agreed. "I think we should know clearly what's in the Senate bill," Boehner said. But he added there are lots of ways to understand its contents.
Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, also scheduled a hearing for Monday to review provisions in the bill requiring employers to verify that their workers are legal.
Cornyn said he opposes a provision allowing workers to use up to 20 documents to verify they are legal workers. Also, the Department of Homeland Security has raised concerns about how quickly it must have in place an electronic system that employers will use to verify their workers legal status, Cornyn's spokesman Don Stewart said.
"This will give us a chance to look at it in more detail," Cornyn said...."
(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
We don't need new laws. We need to enforce the laws we have.
We all know the Senate bill is garbage. Time to send emails by the hundreds of thousands. IMO, if they can't get it right, then no bill is better than what they've "cooked up."
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition.
Bricks that is and lots of them.
While we review your tabled bill Senator, let's work on these bricks. :)
The status quo is superior to legislation in response to the mob on both ends of the spectrum.
One can hope.
Good, drop two 500 pounders on it and be done with that garbage.
AMEN
"Hearings might be beneficial if there was a lack of attention or knowledge on this issue in the House, but that's certainly not the case," Flake said in a statement.
In other words, "let's not expose the public to any more truth if at all possible."
...Rep. Jim Kolbe, R-Ariz., who also called for the bill to move forward. "Only a small, vocal faction wants to stop a sensible guest-worker program and ignore the reality of the 11 million undocumented living in the country now,"
Pure unadulterated BS. Lying through his teeth.
Kolbe said in a statement. "We must not let any delays impede our progress toward solving this problem."
In other words "the blowback is getting worse by the day, and the sooner we can ramrod this through Congress, the sooner the voters can start forgetting about this treason."
Here we have two politicians whose districts are already "Hispanified" they have no choice but to sell out the country if they want to keep their jobs. Thankfully this puts them in the minority for now.
Ten years from now the story will be entirely different. If the House caves on this isue, the USA as we know it is finished.
And rightfully so. The Senate's current immigration proposal would grant illegal aliens guest worker status and eventual US citizenship. Both of these provisions equate to amnesty. Bush ordering NG troops to the border is a positive step and something he should have done right after 9-11. However, a comprehensive immigration reform bill is not the answer. The House proposal HR4437 has been waiting for Senate action since December 2005. HR4437 secures the border and enforces employer sanctions. Foreigners who break US law shouldn't be rewarded. Close the borders now and tell employers to stop hiring illegals, or else. Its get tough time for the Feds. Lets see who has the cajones to get the job done.
"And that's what's so infuriating about the whole thing. The senate is so high and mighty that they think they're untouchable and they don't care what the lowly constituents want."
Repeal the 17th amendment and bring us back to a federalism.
ping
good.
"Rep. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz., urged Hastert to drop any plans for hearings."
The only thing I can say for him is that he's living up to his name!
If Pence's plan or HR 4437 by itself is not brought up in the committee, then there should be no compromise with the treacherous Senate's plan whatsoever.
Illinios conservatives who reside in Hastert's district should stay home or vote 3rd party if this goes through.
Porky is at it again.
House GOP going down big time hard Nov '06 if they abandon us on amnesty for illegals.
Let them know, now.
Why would Dennis Hastert look at the bill? CIRA is an abomination. Is he looking to be voted out of office, betraying the Republican base, who feel that HR4437 should be come law?
Glad this butt slamming RINO is not running for reelection. His cabin was broken into by illegals yet he remain open borders.
They're going to take a long look...
Hahahaha. They're going to milk it and fling it back publicly into the Senate and Dems' faces. They should have two day arguments on each of the Senate's amendments.
Might be a long, entertaining show, the House debating the Senate bill before reconciliation.
House GOP going down big time hard Nov '06 if they abandon us on amnesty for illegals. Let them know, now.
Except:
We're going to take a long look at it," Hastert said late Tuesday.
House Majority Leader John Boehner agreed. "I think we should know clearly what's in the Senate bill," Boehner said. But he added there are lots of ways to understand its contents.
I guess he has not learned from the election of Congressman Bilbray. Everyone knows what happened to his opponent who was pro guest worker.The opponent lost.
Pitchforks.
Traditionally the House refuses to send a conference committee members for any bill that usurps its power to originate revenue bills. By refusing to even consider a bill when the Senate does it sends a strong message to the Senate not to screw around. The Senate's version of this bill should be no exception.
They are just being diplomatic.
Politicians are never stupid (unless they're a Patches).
Pence's Plan?? And how, pray tell, is it something we should support? Amnesty, in ANY form, is just that. Call it what you wish, it still looks like a duck to me.
This could kill a bill on immigration....This one should be DOA!
What a bunch of political ignorant knucleheads... happy as pigs in poop that the're cutting off thier own noses.
Somehow I am getting a feeling that Speaker Hastert is starting to wobble a little. I feel that the pressure should be intensified on the House leadership that if they are thinking of compromise with the Senate or "rethink" HR4437 that they will pay a penalty .The penalty will be that the Republican voter base will stay home in November, not re-elect them and they will not have a job.
""Hastert is throwing House Republicans under the bus to score cheap political points.""
House Republicans are going to look like saviors as they publicly analyze the senate bill provision by provision and denouce each one.
Is that some kind of threat, you freak?
Ping
As long as they keep it off the agenda, then they are doing a good job.
But in case, they are planning to send a conference committee and maybe they are going to compromise on CIRA. This means that there is compromise in the air.
The House should not send a compromise with the Senate.
Bilbrey opened some eyes. He ran squarely against his own President and won. Hastert will look at ways to stall the bill until after the election which really worries me. I certainly do not trust ANY officeholder in the GOP leadership In the White House or in congress on this issue. With the way these GOP boys and girls have been spending money like drunken sailors, they may wait until after the election and then buy votes on the bill the old fashioned way with pork to get some kind of compromise. The Senate and Bush passed a bill in the Senate against an opposition composed by a majority of Republican Senators. Realistically, that should be the greatest fear of those of us who want to see our borders secured, our laws enforced and our sovereignity restored. The Senate, Bush and his boy Vincente really do not care if they rush the bill through before or after the election.
The only problem with no bill is that things will not get any better and could get worse. We are naive to think that if there is no bill they will start building a fence right away. The border will just become a forgotten issue in the minds of our reps for another year and a half when the congress critters are forced to look at it again.
Meanwhile who knows how many or whom will cross the order in the mean time.
ping
"""I guess he has not learned from the election of Congressman Bilbray. Everyone knows what happened to his opponent who was pro guest worker.The opponent lost.""
I read it the other way. He's being a little coy. They're going to make sure everyone knows about it, so much so the MSM can't ignore it.
It seems he's suggesting an unusual procedure - not to go right to reconciliation, but air the Senate's dirty laundry first. That's why the supporters want a quick vote.
BTW, you will see this fall tv commercials not just advertising opponent's support for some murky bill, but every odious position detailed. And against Senators who voted for it. The tactic of detailing each odious amendment approved within the bill has already started.
Give the House Republicans a message:
The Republican voters will be watching you on matters illegal immigration. If you break your " secure borders only" pledge we will penalize you at the ballot box.
As I said, some are just pathetically clueless@!
See, this is how it looks to us outsiders when they set out to kill a compromise slowly. First, just to be nice and polite, you posture and talk about "taking a long look" at what the Senate has cranked out. Then you do a little soft shoe number with your hat and cane. A few months down the road you put out a press release in which you announce that things really look grim and "boy, we've really delved into this and examined every angle, but...well, it isn't looking good", "working hard to find common ground, but not much headway", "a few stubborn Senators", "legislation not dead, but fading fast", "persistent vegetative state"; set the stage for its imminent demise.
Finally, along about the time the GOP ticket needs that final slug of octane -- say nearing the end of October -- you hold a big press conference and announce that, "Despite the most valiant efforts and endless hours burning the midnight oil to forge a compromise, blah-blah-blah The legislation is dead." Then you hang your head soberly, fold your hands in silent reverence, walk morosely from the press room as you wave off the gadflies, direct your limo over to the party in the hotel ballroom where REAL Americans will be singing "Ding, Dong, The Bill is Dead" at the top of their half-besotted lungs, and, FINALLY -- but importantly -- the GOP rolls to victory at the polls in November.
It could be at trial balloon, but we should not leave our guard down. The message should be that we will be watching very closely on actions of the House in regards to illegal immigration.
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