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Root Causes of Haditha
Salt Lake City Times ^ | June 9, 2006 | Maj. Gen. (Ret.) John Batiste

Posted on 06/14/2006 12:37:37 PM PDT by Parmy

Edited on 06/14/2006 12:47:35 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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Like MacArthur, these old generals should just fade away.
1 posted on 06/14/2006 12:37:41 PM PDT by Parmy
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To: Parmy

This is a cheap shot. The investigations may prove it was simply misfortune. This general may or may not know better, but his has dishonored himself and his service by this nonsense.


2 posted on 06/14/2006 12:38:59 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: Parmy

He is right, there is a link between the "alleged atrocities" and the "failed policies". They are both apparently made up by enemies of our country.


3 posted on 06/14/2006 12:40:01 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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Before that, he was the senior military assistant to then-Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz.

Why am I not surprised?

4 posted on 06/14/2006 12:41:18 PM PDT by rocksblues (Liberals will stop at nothing.)
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To: Parmy

I'd like to backhand this chump.


5 posted on 06/14/2006 12:42:06 PM PDT by pissant
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To: Parmy

The root causes are islam and a traitorous press, which eagerly latches onto every Benedict Arnold it can find.


6 posted on 06/14/2006 12:43:27 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Parmy

I believe that it was Rumsfeld who wanted our troops to also invade Syria.

This ex soldier seems to be a half bubble off.


7 posted on 06/14/2006 12:43:45 PM PDT by nikos1121
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To: Parmy
To the general:

8 posted on 06/14/2006 12:44:14 PM PDT by NonLinear (He's dead, Jim)
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To: bnelson44

I agree. To talk this way is to allow yourself to become a tool of the enemy.


9 posted on 06/14/2006 12:44:49 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: Parmy

In other words, this scummer begins with the assumption that the allegations are true.


10 posted on 06/14/2006 12:46:11 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: bnelson44
He has been on the cool-aid since he retired. There never has been a war that hasn't been messy.I suggest that he read up on all of the screw-ups of WW2. The enemy just will not cooperate with your plans; Generals are supposed to know that. But making half-assed statemens about leadership and command structure plays right into the hands of the MSM and liberal Moonbats.
11 posted on 06/14/2006 12:48:01 PM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: Parmy
Batiste's credibility is spent, done with. A retired general who announces a direct connection between an ALLEGED atrocity and the Secretary of Defense?? Uh, he can't possibly know the facts, and the behavior of one group of Marines in one firefight is hardly the direct "fault" of the Secretary. This article is offensive.

Just wondering, is there a direct connection between Rumsfeld and the recent flattening of Zarqawi?? Or the new Irag govt.? How about to the president's succesful trip to bagdhad?

12 posted on 06/14/2006 12:48:08 PM PDT by Williams
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What son-of-a-%$@#% GENERAL starts with the assumption that our military members are cold-blooded killers?!


13 posted on 06/14/2006 12:48:40 PM PDT by pgyanke (Christ has a tolerance for sinners; liberals have a tolerance for sin.)
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To: Parmy
Recall this POS to active-duty

then courts-martial him


14 posted on 06/14/2006 12:49:00 PM PDT by RetiredSWO
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To: pissant
I'd like to backhand this chump.

Did you mean to say chimp?


15 posted on 06/14/2006 12:49:29 PM PDT by capydick (Not to know is bad; not to wish to know is worse.)
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(Retired General's analysis of) Haditha is but a symptom of a much bigger problem.

Yes. Retired Generals with too much time on their hands bloviating about a supposed problem when we don't have all the facts. How does one determine the root cause of a problem that may not even exist?

16 posted on 06/14/2006 12:50:08 PM PDT by plain talk
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Chauncy here has already analyzed the root causes of Haditha. I'm so glad some people decided to hang on to their Magic Eight Ball....which is the only way he could analyze the root causes of an event that hasn't even been thoroughly investigated.


17 posted on 06/14/2006 12:50:26 PM PDT by delphirogatio
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18 posted on 06/14/2006 12:51:09 PM PDT by Old Seadog (Inside every old person is a young person saying "WTF happened?".)
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To: Parmy
There is a direct link between the alleged atrocities in Haditha and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld. His poor decisions and bad judgment in 2003 and 2004 are the root causes for the prolonged challenge we now face. Haditha is but a symptom of a much bigger problem.

How can one establish a connection between something that he has a (possibly minority) opinion about and something that may not have even occured?

The root cause of articles like this is that too many idiots believe their agenda-driven falsehoods are valid because "they should be true".

19 posted on 06/14/2006 12:52:15 PM PDT by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: Parmy
Although this will date me, David Frye did hilarious political imitations, including esp of Nixon. On his comedy album, I clearly remember Frye imitating some liberal weenie, rattling off all the terrible things Nixon was responsible for, the preposterous list ending with "and all this bad weather we've been having lately".

Batiste's article reminds me of that bit. Rumsfeld is now responsible for anything arguably bad that happens anywhere.

20 posted on 06/14/2006 12:52:33 PM PDT by Williams
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