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To: reductio
Sounds like you'd fit right in down at the Lodge.

From the Catholic Catechism:

1260 "Since Christ died for all, and since all men are in fact called to one and the same destiny, which is divine, we must hold that the Holy Spirit offers to all the possibility of being made partakers, in a way known to God, of the Paschal mystery." Every man who is ignorant of the Gospel of Christ and of his Church, but seeks the truth and does the will of God in accordance with his understanding of it, can be saved. It may be supposed that such persons would have desired Baptism explicitly if they had known its necessity.

126 posted on 06/14/2006 9:09:08 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: sinkspur
The statement in the CCC, the new catechism, is true so long as they enter the true Church before death. The statement in the catechism, however, does not provide this qualifier "unless before death". Therefore, you are assuming something which is not stated explicity, an assumption uniquely your own which is incorrect and in contradiction with the infallibly defined dogma of the Catholic Church, which is stated very clearly:

"[the Roman Catholic Church] firmly believes, professes, and proclaims that none of those who are not within the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics cannot become participants in eternal life, but will depart "into everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels" (Matt. 25:41), unless before the end of their life the same have been added to the flock; and that the unity of Ecclesiastical body is so strong that only to those remaining in it are the Sacraments of the Church of benefit for Salvation, and do fastings, almsgiving, and other functions of piety and exercises of Christian service produce eternal reward, and that no one, whatever almsgiving he has practiced, even if he has shed blood for the name of Christ, can be saved, unless he has remained in the bosom and unity of the Catholic Church."

You are therefore engaging in private enterpretation. Furthermore, such a conclusion on your part is one of the fundamental principles of Freemasonry.

135 posted on 06/14/2006 9:34:29 PM PDT by reductio
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