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To: discostu

Sorry, you ask for proof. I showed you. 11,000+ meth labs busted in the four year period of 2000 to 2004 in Missouri alone. 2.5 times the number of traffic fatalities in the state.

But then you criticized the definition of labs.

So, you discounted the proof you asked for.

As you have done with everything presented. You ask that I hit a moving target. That is bull.


145 posted on 06/15/2006 1:57:00 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

But you couldn't present any data on what size the labs are. 11,000 meth labs isn't like 11,000 cars, a car is a car is a car, meth labs vary from one lone hobiest with a bunson burner to a factory setup running 24/7. There's nothing wrong with pointing out the fact that data is incomplete. But I accepted your later math built from that data that built to a 1.5% meth usage rate in the general population, so my criticism wasn't that intense. But I didn't accept that as evidence of an epidemic because 1.5% of the population doing anything isn't an epidemic. Then you amped up your estimate to 3%, still not an epidemic in my book. Then you just started throwing numbers out there with no form of data to back it up at all.

You've come the closest to actually presenting data of anyone on the thread. But the data you presented was incomplete. I'm not asking that you hit a moving target, I'm asking that you present complete data. At least the average production capacity (I'll even be nice and assume that all the labs were running at full capacity all the time) of the labs is needed to translate the number of labs busted into the number of meth users that represents. You can't just say "there were 11,000 labs busted over a 4 year period in the entire state therefore this particular city in the state has 15% of its population hooked on meth", the conclusion doesn't follow the data. You're sitting here accusing me of being mean because I won't agree that the left side of your equation equals 4, but you won't give me a complete left side of the equation, if you want me to agree the left side of your equation equals 4 then you need to show me a 2+2 (or 8/2 or whatever else you've got that can make 4).


150 posted on 06/15/2006 2:19:44 PM PDT by discostu (get on your feet and do the funky Alphonzo)
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