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To: onevoter
"The DUMmies don't seem to realize that getting the NRA more involved only hurts their party."

You are correct about the heartland Red States. However on the coasts, Americans think that More Gun Control is good and the NRA is bad. As a Hunter and hand gun owner in New Jersey, I can tell you that it is only a matter of time before I will be telling my Grandchildren about the old days when you used to be able to hunt in this state. The NRA has no political support amongst the elected officials in New Jersey on any level. In SanFrancisco, 60% voted to make it illegal to own a handgun. Were it not for the NRA law suit, this situation would have stood. There definitely is a red/blue state confrontation concerning the ownership of Firearms. The mayor of New Your wants to get all of the liberal big city mayors to work with him towards adopting more and more Gun Control. The UN is feeding off of the Gun Control frenzy in this country and elsewhere. I am waiting to retire and move to a place where all 10 of the Bill of Rights are recognized. people like myself used to be in the main stream of American political thought. Now I am a pro "lets put a gun in the hands of everyone" extremist. Many of the Blue State political types, such as Senator Schumer of New York, have committed demagoguery with respect to this issue worst than Joe McCarty used Communism (a real threat by the way) to further his career.
15 posted on 06/16/2006 5:50:48 AM PDT by wmileo
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To: wmileo
I couldn't agree more. I've mentioned this statistic recently...in the 20th century, 34 million people were killed in wars but 196 million people were killed by their own governments. The solution to this problem is not to disarm everyone, but exactly the opposite....we should be holding firearms safety and marksmanship classes in the public schools, and issuing assault rifles to everyone that passes on graduation day.

But for us in New Jersey, we get little support. I can't really blame the national... they are fighting where it will do some good and that is not New Jersey. But that still leaves us out here swinging.

I think it's on us to educate people where we can. People are always surprised when they discover that I shoot Skeet fairly regularly (in Jackson ...on Sunday mornings)... they say I don't look the type. I usually use the opportunity to try to explain to them that it doesn't mean I'm going to blow their head off. I also try to make a point to bring as many of my non - gun owning friends out to the club for a round or two just so they can see how much fun it is. so far I've opened several minds, and created two out and out converts.

Also, a good friends wife works as on air talent at Fox News and I've been trying to talk some of her co workers into coming out to the club and trying it out. I figure if there are a few members of the media who realize that shooting sports are less scary and more fun than they thought, it's a win for us.

Small steps is the only thing I can think of. But I've also buried two 640 round spam cans of 7.62x39 just in case.
22 posted on 06/16/2006 6:33:44 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: wmileo

The irony about the "gun-control" crowd on the coasts is that gun control isn't really the problem. The problem is created by welfare moms raising 12 criminal children by 12 different fathers, the liberal judges who refuse to come down hard on criminals and the liberal media that treats criminals as the "true" victims. Our problem isn't guns, but the liberal culture that has not only bred criminals, but keeps putting them back out on the street.


35 posted on 06/17/2006 6:19:17 AM PDT by onevoter
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To: wmileo
In SanFrancisco, 60% voted to make it illegal to own a handgun.
Were it not for the NRA law suit, this situation would have stood.

Not true.

There are plenty of gun groups that would have filed suit, [and won] if the NRA had not.

37 posted on 06/17/2006 3:41:54 PM PDT by tpaine
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