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To: rcocean

Broder as usual lies about prop 187. He has the gall to call Wilson's defense of Prop 187 "revisionist".

The facts are:

1) Prop 187 got 59% of the vote
2) Wilson's support of Prop 187 lead to his his victory in 1994. Just like the Driver License issue helped Arnold.
3) Republicans were losing in Calf *before* Prop 187. Feinstein/boxer/clinton all won election in 1992.
4) Dole/Kemp were against Prop 187 and got fewer votes in 1996 in Calf then any Republican since Jerry Ford in 1976.
5) Broder is part of the "open borders" establishment and his mythology that Prop 187 hurt Republicans is just "open borders" propaganda.


2 posted on 06/17/2006 6:21:49 AM PDT by rcocean (Copyright is theft and loved by Hollywood socialists)
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To: rcocean
Also, something like 40% of Hispanics voted for Prop 187.

All the "187 doomed the GOP in California" crap is revisionist history.

4 posted on 06/17/2006 6:23:57 AM PDT by B Knotts (Newt '08!)
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To: rcocean
If not for the despicable courts, prop 187 would have been duplicated across the country and illegal immigration would not have grown into the critical problem we have today. IMHO
6 posted on 06/17/2006 6:28:25 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: rcocean

Thanks for your timeline on California.


8 posted on 06/17/2006 6:31:50 AM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: rcocean
Broder is part of the "open borders" establishment and his mythology that Prop 187 hurt Republicans is just "open borders" propaganda.

It is strange how few in the GOP leadership seem to notice apparently that it's mostly liberals like Broder and the NY Times who keep saying Prop 187 hurt Republicans, as if they really care whether that happens or not. In reality standing up to illegal immigration is a winning issue for them and that's why liberals want to scare them off from taking advantage of it.

13 posted on 06/17/2006 7:24:12 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: rcocean
I watched the Wilson presentation on C-SPAN. Broder was in attendence. You are correct with your points. I would add that Boxer was advocating putting troops on the border as part of the Boxer Plan in 1993.
14 posted on 06/17/2006 7:31:45 AM PDT by kabar
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