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To: seasoned traditionalist
Well, my friend, with your Islamofacist-like suggestion/solution, we would be executing hundreds of thousands--if not millions--of our fellow citizens a year.

So you support spending $19 billion in one year on the WOD? You support arrested more than 1.6 million people? You support the costs in building and housing 43,000 new inmates each year?

Call me an Islamofascist if you want, but my point remains: We are not doing anything in the WOD other than growing the government and eroding personal liberties and destroying private property rights.

The current state of affairs is unacceptable to me.

IF we are committed to winning the war on drugs, then we must find a better way to fight it. Executing people for possession is the only solution I see to winning the War on Drugs.

If you've got a better way, maybe you could suggest that instead of calling me names.

68 posted on 06/18/2006 11:05:32 AM PDT by SittinYonder (Ic þæt gehate, þæt ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille furðor gan,)
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To: SittinYonder
Executing people for possession is the only solution I see to winning the War on Drugs.

And if you're not willing to execute them for it, then there is no practical solution.

72 posted on 06/18/2006 11:20:11 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: SittinYonder
Executing people for possession is the only solution I see to winning the War on Drugs. If you've got a better way, maybe you could suggest that instead of calling me names.

International Narcotics Control Strategy Report -2003

Iran has executed more than 10,000 narcotics traffickers in the last decade; executions continue, but the UNODC reports that many in the Iranian judiciary are questioning the deterrent effect of executions.

The Iranian Government (GOI) estimates that about two percent of Iran's 67.7 million citizens (that is, about 1,354,000 people) are regular drug abusers (drug-dependent addicts), but many respected observers of drug abuse worldwide view this estimate as low. ~snip~ The GOI seems particularly concerned over the sharp increase in intravenous drug abuse.

-- http://www.parstimes.com/news/archive/2004/state/narcotics_report_2003.html

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1. If you compare the scope of heroin addiction in Iran and Singapore to the scope of the problem in the Netherlands, which do you think has a better handle on the heroin problem?

2. What is your preferred approach between the alternatives you've presented?

76 posted on 06/18/2006 11:26:13 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: SittinYonder
"So you support spending $19 billion in one year on the WOD? You support arrested more than 1.6 million people? You support the costs in building and housing 43,000 new inmates each year?

"Call me an Islamofascist if you want, but my point remains: We are not doing anything in the WOD other than growing the government and eroding personal liberties and destroying private property rights.

"The current state of affairs is unacceptable to me.

"IF we are committed to winning the war on drugs, then we must find a better way to fight it. Executing people for possession is the only solution I see to winning the War on Drugs.

"If you've got a better way, maybe you could suggest that instead of calling me names.

To begin with, I DO NOT, support the ENTIRE WOD. Period!. It is a waste of resources, which has no benefit--other than to those who work within the system and have a vested interest in seeing it perpetuated.

While this is a cop-out, I (like so many others) do not have an easy solution (such as lock them all up and throw away the key; or as in your case, "let's just execute them) but somehow, somewhere, there HAS GOT TO BE A BETTER WAY

Though not a libertarian, I am somewhat in favor of "decriminalization" of cannabis for small (personal use) amounts.

And NO, I don't smoke. Tried it, long time ago, and all it did was make me goofy/sleepy, and will stick with that greatest abused (albeit legal) other drug, alcohol.

Last but not least, you need to go back and read my quote.

I did NOT accuse you of being an "ISLAMOFACIST." What I said, was your “solution” that we execute drug users was "ISLAMOFACIST-LIKE", which is apropos for someone like yourself with your views.

Islamofacist are those who are completely intolerant of anyone who offends their sense of order and religious convictions and laws, are willing to exact the ultimate punishment for offenses and infractions (in order to make an example and dissuade others from committing same) which are completely irrational when compared to social order and fabric of civilized societies.

As an aside, I'm certain you are cognizant of how well the death penalty (which by the way I support in these instances) has been a "deterant," and has "reduced" the rate of Homicides in this country?

CASE CLOSED!!!

98 posted on 06/18/2006 12:09:52 PM PDT by seasoned traditionalist
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To: SittinYonder
IF we are committed to winning the war on drugs, then we must find a better way to fight it. Executing people for possession is the only solution I see to winning the War on Drugs.

Except that this has been tried in police states where they can kill just about anyone they like, and it has never worked. Part of the problem is that humans rarely make judgments of risk that are remotely reasonable, rational, or correct, a fundamental characteristic of our cognitive architecture. A solution predicated on humans routinely making good judgments and evaluating risk even vaguely correctly is ipso facto useless.

163 posted on 06/18/2006 8:21:03 PM PDT by tortoise
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To: SittinYonder
Executing people for possession is the only solution I see to winning the War on Drugs.

Hey, Saudi Arabia does that already. Move there.

278 posted on 06/21/2006 10:18:31 AM PDT by dirtboy (When Bush is on the same side as Ted the Swimmer on an issue, you know he's up to no good...)
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