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Marchers demand apology over raid (UK)
BBC News ^ | 18/6/2006 | BBC

Posted on 06/18/2006 3:06:58 PM PDT by thoughtomator

Campaigners demonstrated in east London over recent anti-terror raids, calling for a full police apology.

Hundreds of people took to the streets near Forest Gate, east London, scene of a massive police raid on 2 June.

Brothers Mohammed Abdul Kahar, 23, and Abul Koyair, 20, spent several days in custody following the raid. They were later released without charge.

Muddassar Ahmad, a spokesman for the organisers, said: "We clearly, clearly want an apology - unqualified."

Mr Kahar was shot in the shoulder during the raid.

Mr Koyair helped lead the march, which ended with a rally in a local park. They walked 100 yards (300 ft) from the site of the raided house in Lansdown Road.

Protesters marched behind a 20ft banner which read "Newham demands justice". Police estimate between 1,500 and 2,000 people took part in the march.

'Very isolated'

On Tuesday the two brothers held a press conference where they gave an emotional account of the police raid, which involved some 250 police.

After this, the Metropolitan Police's Assistant Commissioner Andy Hayman released a statement in which he apologised for the "hurt" officers may have caused the men.

Mr Ahmad added: "What's needed now is confidence-building measures - the community is feeling very isolated.

Marchers in Forest Gate on Sunday 18 June Up to 2,000 people are taking part

"Police officers have admitted privately that years of confidence-building have been put back."

Mr Koyair addressed the rally and told the crowd: "I just want to say thank you all for supporting our family in this very hard time."

He said: "(We) don't want this to happen to other people in this community, Muslim (or) non-Muslim."

The statement was released on behalf of community groups and Muslim organisations, and asked for an apology not only from Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Ian Blair but also from Prime Minister Tony Blair.

Organisers told the BBC they wanted to show their "peaceful, democratic right".

Another man said: "I think there is a lot anger on the street, really, right now.

"At this point in time, people are very much angry about what occurred, they're angry at the nature of the arrest, they're angry at the evidence that was used, they're angry at the sensationalism in the media.

'Sack the other Blair'

"I cannot see how the police are going to get any intelligence from the Muslim community now after what's occurred."

Respect MP George Galloway called for high-level sackings in the wake of the raid.

Speaking before Minister for Pensions Reforms Stephen Timms, the local MP, he said: "If Mr Timms tells us there was no minister involved, that it was all the responsibility of the police, we must sack Sir Ian Blair.

"But if it was not the police but the government who authorised this terror raid on Lansdown Road then we must sack the other Blair."

Mr Timms was booed when he tried to speak. He said: "We need to acknowledge that the police have an extraordinarily hard job to do on behalf of all of us.

"It would be great if it were possible to do that without any mishaps at all, we all know, sadly, in reality it isn't."

'Shooting to kill'

The protesters were also joined by relatives of Jean Charles de Menezes, the innocent Brazilian man mistakenly shot by police at Stockwell Tube in July 2005.

Mr Menezes' cousins Alex Pereira and Patricia Armani wore Brazilian football shirts with Menezes and the number 27 on the back. They spoke at the rally, criticising police tactics during the raid on the two brothers.

Yasmin Khan, a spokeswoman for the de Menezes campaign, said: "The family are here to lend support to the two brothers.

"The key issue is one year on from Jean Charles's killing police have not learnt any of the lessons.

"The same policy, in terms of shooting to kill, is in place."

Speakers at the rally urged people in the community to unite, and asked non-Muslims to visit mosques and talk with members of the Islamic community to improve feelings.

A neighbour from number 48 Lansdown Road told those gathered at the rally that his uncle had been injured at the raid and that police had acted "like animals".


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: angrymuslims; dontrunfromthecops; eurabia; iamvictimhearmewhine; protestthis; terrorists; tinyviolins; waaahhhh; whiners

1 posted on 06/18/2006 3:07:01 PM PDT by thoughtomator
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To: thoughtomator

Confidence building my arse. The muslim community is plenty confident. What they need is some humility-building.


2 posted on 06/18/2006 3:08:48 PM PDT by wizardoz
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To: MadIvan; WLR; sageb1; Nickname; Paleo Conservative; Mongeaux; rattrap; SJackson; Alouette

Freepmail me if you want on or off this list!

3 posted on 06/18/2006 3:09:12 PM PDT by thoughtomator (A thread without a comment on immigration is not complete)
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To: thoughtomator

those protesters should have been hauled off in a pig gut wagon


4 posted on 06/18/2006 3:12:06 PM PDT by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: sure_fine

Any particular reason?

They seem to be exercising their democratic right to protest in a perfectly reasonable manner. And the two brothers involved would appear to have a very legitimate grievance in this case.


5 posted on 06/18/2006 3:34:48 PM PDT by Canard
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To: Canard
They seem to be exercising their democratic right to protest in a perfectly reasonable manner. And the two brothers involved would appear to have a very legitimate grievance in this case.

Could be. Or they successfully spirited away the evidence before the door got kicked in. Im sick of being concerned with Muslim senstivities. Where were these protestors when Nick berg got his head sawed off? The Italian Military Police getting blown up? Where were the protests from the Muslims when that terrorist tried running down the UNC students?

6 posted on 06/18/2006 3:53:18 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Allah is the opium pipedream of a desert pedophile...Freeper Ax)
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To: Canard

thats easy, just exercising my democratic right to protest them in a perfectly reasonable manner, for me


7 posted on 06/18/2006 4:18:56 PM PDT by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: cardinal4

This is beyond 'Muslim sensitivities'. We should all be concerned with a case where the police/security services seem to have got things so wrong. Both from the point of view of the victims and the point of view of defending the country against actual terrorist threats. In conjunction with the Jean Charles de Menezes shooting, there are legitimate concerns for us all raised here.


8 posted on 06/18/2006 4:42:59 PM PDT by Canard
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To: thoughtomator
Speakers at the rally urged people in the community to unite, and asked non-Muslims to visit mosques and talk with members of the Islamic community to improve feelings.

Yes, it's never about actual events that hurt people physically like, Beheadings, Torture, and Bombings, but about their Feelings.

9 posted on 06/18/2006 5:43:50 PM PDT by sirchtruth (Words Mean Things...)
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Just because they couldn't find any evidence, doesnt mean they are not involved. The 2 brothers are clearly orthodox Muslims, which mean they support all that is being done by the terrorists.


10 posted on 06/18/2006 5:57:24 PM PDT by observer5 ("Better violate the rights of a few, than of all!)
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Another possibilty is that this was asetup, for the police to find nothing. This way, next time the police have suspects, they will be much more reluctant to raid a place.


11 posted on 06/18/2006 5:59:22 PM PDT by observer5 ("Better violate the rights of a few, than of all!)
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