Posted on 06/19/2006 7:37:30 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
The Bush Administration is pushing to create a North American Union out of the work on-going in the Department of Commerce under the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America in the NAFTA office headed by Geri Word. A key part of the plan is to expand the NAFTA tribunals into a North American Union court system that would have supremacy over all U.S. law, even over the U.S. Supreme Court, in any matter related to the trilateral political and economic integration of the United States, Canada and Mexico.
Right now, Chapter 11 of the NAFTA agreement allows a private NAFTA foreign investor to sue the U.S. government if the investor believes a state or federal law damages the investor’s NAFTA business.
Under Chapter 11, NAFTA establishes a tribunal that conducts a behind closed-doors “trial” to decide the case according to the legal principals established by either the World Bank’s International Centre for the Settlement of Investment Disputes or the UN’s Commission for International Trade Law. If the decision is adverse to the U.S., the NAFTA tribunal can impose its decision as final, trumping U.S. law, even as decided by the U.S. Supreme Court. U.S. laws can be effectively overturned and the NAFTA Chapter 11 tribunal can impose millions or billions of dollars in fines on the U.S. government, to be paid ultimately by the U.S. taxpayer.
On Aug. 9, 2005, a three-member NAFTA tribunal dismissed a $970 million claim filed by Methanex Corp., a Canadian methanol producer challenging California laws that regulate against the gasoline additive MTBE. The additive MTBE was introduced into gasoline to reduce air pollution from motor vehicle emissions. California regulations restricted the use of MTBE after the additive was found to contaminate drinking water and produce a health hazard. Had the case been decided differently, California’s MTBE regulations would have been overturned and U.S. taxpayers forced to pay Methanex millions in damages.
While this case was decided favorably to U.S. laws, we can rest assured that sooner or later a U.S. law will be overruled by the NAFTA Chapter 11 adjudicative procedure, as long as the determinant law adjudicated by the NAFTA Chapter 11 tribunals continues to derive from World Court or UN law. Once a North American Union court structure is in place can almost certainly predict that a 2nd Amendment challenge to the right to bear arms is as inevitable under a North American Union court structure as is a challenge to our 1st Amendment free speech laws. Citizens of both Canada and Mexico cannot freely own firearms. Nor can Canadians or Mexicans speak out freely without worrying about “hate crimes” legislation or other political restrictions on what they may choose to say.
Like it or not, NAFTA Chapter 11 tribunals already empower foreign NAFTA investors and corporations to challenge the sovereignty of U.S. law in the United States. Sen. John Kerry (D.-Mass.) has been quoted as saying, “When we debated NAFTA, not a single word was uttered in discussing Chapter 11. Why? Because we didn’t know how this provision would play out. No one really knew just how high the stakes would get.” Again, we have abundant proof that Congress is unbelievably lax when it comes to something as fundamental as reading or understanding the complex laws our elected legislators typically pass.
Under the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) plan expressed in May 2005 for building NAFTA into a North American Union, the stakes are about to get even higher. A task force report titled “Building a North American Community” was written to provide a blueprint for the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America agreement signed by President Bush in his meeting with President Fox and Canada’s then-Prime Minister Paul Martin in Waco, Tex., on March 23, 2005.
The CFR plan clearly calls for the establishment of a “permanent tribunal for North American dispute resolution” as part of the new regional North American Union (NAU) governmental structure that is proposed to go into place in 2010. As the CFR report details on page 22:
The current NAFTA dispute-resolution process is founded on ad hoc panels that are not capable of building institutional memory or establishing precedent, may be subject to conflicts of interest, and are appointed by authorities who may have an incentive to delay a given proceeding. As demonstrated by the efficiency of the World Trade Organization (WTO) appeal process, a permanent tribunal would likely encourage faster, more consistent and more predictable resolution of disputes. In addition, there is a need to review the workings of NAFTA’s dispute-settlement mechanism to make it more efficient, transparent, and effective.
Robert Pastor of American University, the vice chairman of the CFR task force report, provided much of the intellectual justification for the formation of the North American Union. He has repeatedly argued for the creation of a North American Union “Permanent Tribunal on Trade and Investment.” Pastor understands that a “permanent court would permit the accumulation of precedent and lay the groundwork for North American business law.” Notice, Pastor says nothing about U.S. business law or the U.S. Supreme Court. In the view of the globalists pushing toward the formation of the North American Union, the U.S. is a partisan nation-state whose limitations of economic protectionism and provincial self-interest are outdated and as such must be transcended, even if the price involves sacrificing U.S. national sovereignty.
When it comes to the question of illegal immigrants, Pastor’s solution is to erase our borders with Mexico and Canada so we can issue North American Union passports to all citizens. In his testimony to the Subcommittee on the Western Hemisphere of the U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee on June 9, 2005, Pastor made this exact argument: “Instead of stopping North Americans on the borders, we ought to provide them with a secure, biometric Border Pass that would ease transit across the border like an E-Z pass permits our cars to speed though toll booths.”
Even Pastor worries about the potential for North American Unions to overturn U.S. laws that he likes. Regarding environmental laws, Pastor’s testimony to the Trilateral Commission in November 2002 was clear on this point: “Some narrowing or clarification of the scope of Chapter 11 panels on foreign investment is also needed to permit the erosion of environmental rules.” Evidently it did not occur to Pastor that the way to achieve the protection he sought was to leave the sovereignty of U.S. and the supremacy of the U.S. Supreme Court intact.
The executive branch under the Bush Administration is quietly putting in place a behind-the-scenes trilateral regulatory scheme, evidently without any direct congressional input, that should provide the rules by which any NAFTA or NAU court would examine when adjudicating NAU trade disputes. The June 2005 report by the SPP working groups organized in the U.S. Department of Commerce, clearly states the goal:
We will develop a trilateral Regulatory Cooperative Framework by 2007 to support and enhance existing, as well as encourage new cooperation among regulators, including at the outset of the regulatory process.
We wonder if the Bush Administration intends to present the Trilateral Regulatory Cooperative Framework now being constructed by SPP.gov to Congress for review in 2007, or will the administration simply continue along the path of knitting together the new NAU regional governmental structure behind closed doors by executive fiat? Ms. Word affirms that the membership of the various SPP working group committees has not been published. Nor have the many memorandums of understanding and other trilateral agreements created by these SPP working groups been published, not even on the Internet.
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These reads alot like an article I read online published by "The Nation" that lamented the fact that New Deal was toast due to Chapter 11.
If anyone wants to read it, google "reapealing the twenthiest century" and you should find it.
I found it a fascinating read, even if written in a left wing moonbat publication.
In other words, the lack of documentary proof of this secret order is proof of it?
Shhhh....the OAS is listening.
Explain to me how the Supreme Court is kept out when it decides it has jurisdiction. It's pretty much established law that the US government can't void Constitutional protections/ provisions by treaty.
More than one treaty has had provisions clipped by a court.
"President Bush would never sell this country out."
He already has.
No he hasn't!!!!
He absolutely has and all the exclamation points in the world won't change that.
"Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America"
Sounds like something straight out of Orwell.
nah didn't you know?
The President, in his GRAND CONSPIRACY, will tell them to stand down.
LOL
Corsi is revealing himself to be nothing other than a nut.
True. An unconstitutional attempt from any pseudo court would begin The Reckoning.
No duplicate posts, please.
Thanks for the humor. Wait'll my 'peer group' gets a load of this. We haven't had much to laugh about for a long time.
Welcome to the FR moonbat thread.
Part of Article VI of the Constitution:
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any state to the Contrary notwithstanding.
Does this clause place treaties on the same level with the constitution as the "supreme Law of the Land?" Higher? the phrase "any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding" is a very dangerous phrase if interpreted in certain ways.
If so, does it not follow that there can be treaties which are inconsistent with the constitutional terms? Could they by treaty take away our right to gun ownership? To petition against illegal immigration, etc?
My concern is that a president will enter into a treaty, and 2/3 of the Senate will ratify it, an it will erode our constitutional rights. Has this issue been dealt with in the context of treaties which, for example, provide for trials that do not include our constitutional rights?
I am concerned that the various trade agreements made or to be made in the future will be the route by which our national life is irreparably harmed.
That about covers it.
Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America goes into effect in 2010.
That is 4 years!
Apparently, there has been no Congressional oversight of this program/plan, either.
Police and soldiers are sworn to preserve and protect our constitution and our country against all enemies, foreign and domestic and are on our side. Policitians, on the other hand . . .
Yes: Does it hurt?
As I pointed out to someone else a long time ago, it's pretty tough to imagine a document (such as the U.S. Constitution) that authorizes another document (a treaty) to supercede itself.
If they want another civil war, merging three countries will start one in a heartbeat. No wonder they want our guns gone.
You wouldn't believe how difficult it is for us to get all the ducks in a row by then, too. We have to set up the courts and the legislatures and figure out whom in the secret conspiracy to reveal to the public. There's so much to do, we're working around the clock.
LOL Contrary to what you and others may believe, the facts remain crystal clear. GWBush has always supported open borders, a path to citizenship and a guest worker program for illegals. The last two equate to amnesty for illegals. Like it or not, those are the facts. Jerome Corsi has been talking about the so-called "unification" of North America for some time now. Bush`s support for globalism seems to play right into the hands of this idea of uniting Mexico, Canada and the USA into one giant hemispheric consortium. Thereby undermining US sovereignty and tossing the Constitution out the window. Sorry you don't see it that way.
I agree, but was wandering if there was any court that had to decide an issue along those lines, as it would make me happy to know that the court felt the same way. IF the court put this possible interpretation" to rest, there would be less concern for loss of individual liberties.
I tried to argue in favor of incrementalism at the last secret OAS/NAU meeting (I don't recall exactly when, but the time & location were posted on the 'net), but no one took my suggestion to outlaw hot dogs, Mom, and apple pie seriously.
I would agree.
You should have asked to be allowed to set up a working group, seems like they are everywhere creating policy.
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Time will tell.
It will tell that this is just another crazy conspiracy theory that doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
Hell half of it revolves around the building of highways and railways that already exist.
And beyond that, it ties in supposedly friendly relations between countries and then twists it into something sinister.
So far, only the DUmmies, the morons at FreeDumb 4um and maybe a few nuts at Misery Post and a few here really believe this stuff. The rest of us look at it as a trade relationship and not making it into something it isn't.
but since I've been accused of being someone who will profit off of it, I've promoted myself to foreman of the NAU. I have jobs open if you want them :)
I found out yesterday that my Public Library has a working-group regarding landscaping, and to my horror discovered that they refused to take my input.
The idea is to extend legal protection to corporations doing business offshore. It's all about commerce.
Only if you let them.
Laws in America that violate your right to defend your life do not have to be obeyed. Never forget it.
Bring a case of Heineken to the next meeting!
LOL!!
Gracias Amigo!
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