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N.Y. Cops In Pa. Fireworks Stakeouts (NYPD seizes cars of NYers who legally buy fireworks in PA)
NY Post ^ | June 19, 2006 | Larry Celona And Dan Mangan

Posted on 06/19/2006 8:10:58 AM PDT by dead

Undercover NYPD cops are cracking down on New York buyers of illegal fireworks by staking out Pennsylvania vendors - and, for the first time, seizing the cars of people who travel out of state to get their Fourth of July fireworks.

So far this year, cops have seized 30 vehicles belonging to New York ers as they return home from Penn sylvania after buying fireworks there, and have arrested 60 people, according to a report in New York magazine this week. The report says undercover cops have been watching Pennsylvania fireworks vendors and looking for New York license plates. The heightened enforcement comes after Mayor Bloomberg's law-enforcement officials noted an increase in illegal fireworks set off during last Fourth of July on Staten Island.

One Pennsylvania merchant, Bill Weimer, told the magazine that he asks New York police to quit taking pictures of his customer's license plates and leave his stores but that they go across the street and "give off that New York cop attitude."

In an odd twist, New Yorkers - who are barred from possessing fireworks in their home state - can legally buy them in Pennsylvania, which prohibits sales only to its own residents.

A law-enforcement source told The Post yesterday that the NYPD also has confiscated hundreds more cases of fireworks this year compared with last year. More than 1,000 cases have been seized to date, as against 150 last year...

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Grandma Bloomberg is such an ass.

Luckily, funds from auctioning the seized cars probably cover a portion of the enormous overtime costs the cops ring up on those leisurely drives to PA and back.

I'm sure the working stiff looking to shoot a few bottle rockets at his Fourth of July picnic really enjoys the involuntary contribution of his car. And when he loses the job he can no longer get to, we can light some firecrackers to celebrate the fact that we get to pick up his welfare and unemployment tab.

1 posted on 06/19/2006 8:11:00 AM PDT by dead
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To: dead

So now the government can seize a vehicle for fireworks?

No trial. No jury. just sell it?


2 posted on 06/19/2006 8:13:53 AM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: dead

Meanwhile, how many ILLEGAL aliens live and work in NYC with forged documents??


3 posted on 06/19/2006 8:14:41 AM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: dead

So is the good news that NY has solved how it's major crime problems and can now concentrate on the notorious fireworks bootleggers?


4 posted on 06/19/2006 8:15:50 AM PDT by SamAdams_Lite
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To: BenLurkin
So now the government can seize a vehicle for fireworks?

Yep.

Eventually they will seize your vehicle for failure to wear a seatbelt if they so desire and need the revenue.

5 posted on 06/19/2006 8:17:20 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: dead
Allocating large numbers of cops for firecracker chasing may be a good thing, if it means they are not available for busting down doors in the morality war.

A door story.

6 posted on 06/19/2006 8:18:20 AM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com)
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To: DTogo; dead

Wow...that was fast.


7 posted on 06/19/2006 8:18:58 AM PDT by edpc
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To: BenLurkin

So, let me get this straight. July 4th represents our Independence as a free people, and lighting fireworks is customary and traditional. To day, people are arrested for this. It's long past calling this a free country, and not one in a thousand even understands what getting arrested for fireworks really means.


8 posted on 06/19/2006 8:19:00 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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I went to Cabelas on Saturday and on the way back I stopped at one of those fireworks tents ....just to browse mind you ... I didn't buy a thing... and if I did I would have paid cash so that you couldn't prove a thing.

anyway... I was surprised at the size of some of the things they were selling. Last year all I ... um ... saw when I was browsing...was bottle rocket type stuff... but this year some of those things were the size of 155mm artillery shells.

All far too big to be launched from my backyard safely......
9 posted on 06/19/2006 8:19:39 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: DTogo

But what happens if you are an illegal alien and you have illegal fireworks in your car?


10 posted on 06/19/2006 8:20:07 AM PDT by 300magnum (We know that if evil is not confronted, it gains in strength and audacity, and returns to strike us)
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To: dead

Sounds like Penn needs to get off it's butt and arrest a few of these cops.


11 posted on 06/19/2006 8:20:35 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Support Network Infrastructure Defense: Kill BlackHats)
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To: DTogo

No kidding, why aren't they staking out the mexican consulate?


12 posted on 06/19/2006 8:20:47 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: dead
We have the same issues in Iowa. All fireworks are illegal here, but people drive down to Missouri and stock up and drive back. I then have to spend the two weeks around July 4th listening to my stupid neighbors blowing up the neighborhood. Don't get me wrong, fireworks are a blast. But the idiots who think it's cool to blow up the place every night at 9:30 while my daughter is trying to sleep need to seriously get a life. Go out to the middle of the damn country already.
13 posted on 06/19/2006 8:23:43 AM PDT by cspackler (There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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So, let me get this straight. July 4th represents our Independence as a free people, and lighting fireworks is customary and traditional illegal.

There, fixed that for you.

14 posted on 06/19/2006 8:25:29 AM PDT by cspackler (There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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To: Centurion2000

When the idiots at the Pennsy LCB tried to do this in Maryland, the Maryland state troopers arrested them.

Should do the same here.


15 posted on 06/19/2006 8:26:28 AM PDT by Al Gator (Refusing to "stoop to your enemy's level", gets you cut off at the knees.)
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Grandma Bloomberg is such an ass.

Please! Auntie Schumer will whack you!

16 posted on 06/19/2006 8:27:37 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: dead
New York City tried a similar tactic in New Jersey about 15 years ago in a desperate attempt to collect sales tax revenue from New Yorkers shopping in New Jersey stores. (Under New York City law, city residents were technically required to pay the city sales tax on anything they purchase out of state and bring into the city for their own use.)

This came to an end when the shopping mall owners in New Jersey did their own legal research and determined that New York City law enforcement officials have no jurisdiction in New Jersey -- and they threatened to have any New York City government employee caught writing down license plates arrested and charged with criminal trespass, stalking, etc.

17 posted on 06/19/2006 8:30:01 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: dead

I can't wait for the 4th. Living in Montana, I can get these fireworks that go way high in the air and explode with a thunderous boom and spread lights and colors throughout my field of view. I feel like an artilleryman!


18 posted on 06/19/2006 8:31:54 AM PDT by montomike (If you didn't find this funny and were offended...have a riot.)
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To: cspackler
Your neighbors may be inconsiderate asses, but that hardly justifies sending police officers across two states to observe people making legal purchases and then confiscating their primary mode of transportation without trial or any legal recourse.

I think a noise violation fine would be more in order.

19 posted on 06/19/2006 8:32:51 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: BenLurkin
"So now the government can seize a vehicle for fireworks?"

My question too. It would seem that the idea of the presumption of innocence has been exchanged for the presumption of guilt if punishment is now meted out before a trial by jury. 'Course, the federal government has the precedent for this; they have long siezed not just the vehicles, but other assets, such as bank accounts, of those people suspected, not convicted, of drug dealing.

I think the State of NY should just set up its own Customs checkpoints. That's unconstitutional of course, but who cares at this point, since the Constitution is pretty much seen these days as an "activist" document that can be used to justify whatever scheme our rulers come up with.

20 posted on 06/19/2006 8:35:15 AM PDT by Sam Cree (Delicacy, precision, force)
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