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Frontline on PBS Tonight - The Dark Side

Posted on 06/20/2006 6:25:24 PM PDT by FoxPro

Frontline The Dark Side

The internal struggle between Vice President Dick Cheney and CIA Director George Tenet with regard to the war on terror. CC Stereo

Reflections on tonight's report.


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: cheney; ciadirector; defundpbs; govwatch; pbs; tenet
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Just wondering what people think of this stuff that we pay for with our taxes.
1 posted on 06/20/2006 6:25:26 PM PDT by FoxPro
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To: FoxPro

Who watches Nightline anymore?


2 posted on 06/20/2006 6:26:24 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: FoxPro
You mean Frontline?
3 posted on 06/20/2006 6:27:46 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: bnelson44

Lol!, that is true.


4 posted on 06/20/2006 6:28:08 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: FoxPro

Yawn


5 posted on 06/20/2006 6:28:47 PM PDT by RCNOVA
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To: bnelson44
Who watches Nightline anymore?

People without cabel or dish TV, and my neighbors, who all suffer from depression or are hypochondria.

6 posted on 06/20/2006 6:31:02 PM PDT by FoxPro (jroehl2@yahoo.com)
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To: FoxPro

Mr. Bush kept Tenet waaaaay too long.


7 posted on 06/20/2006 6:32:02 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: FoxPro

Tenet should have been fired on 9-12.


8 posted on 06/20/2006 6:34:13 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: sgtbono2002

9-13 was too long.


9 posted on 06/20/2006 6:34:40 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: FoxPro

Every single dime of taxpayer money should have been pulled from PBS years ago. It's nothing but a Leftist propaganda machine. The people who run it should be arrested for sedition.


10 posted on 06/20/2006 6:35:59 PM PDT by navyguy
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To: FoxPro

Lord Cheney finds their lack of faith disturbing...

11 posted on 06/20/2006 6:40:02 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: Paleo Conservative
Try 01/22/01 right after Bush took office.

Look up Steve Weisman on the web and check out his website. He gives a great critique of Tenet.
12 posted on 06/20/2006 6:42:38 PM PDT by misterrob
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

lol!


13 posted on 06/20/2006 6:44:34 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: FoxPro
Ive been listening to most of it. They make it sound very ominous, but for the most part it is all pretty straightforward. They have over-analyzed some of the internal politics. But in the end, it depicts an Administration that is doing what it thinks is right. So, good!

But plenty of nuance for the moonbats to do their typical paranoid thing.

14 posted on 06/20/2006 6:46:37 PM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: FoxPro

I've never seen a documentary so heavily rely on "creepy pictures" to make its case.

They're really getting some use out of the sepiatone Photoshop filter.


15 posted on 06/20/2006 6:53:01 PM PDT by james500
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To: FoxPro
"Frontline on PBS Tonight - The Dark Side"

This could be a 52 week a year sidebar..
with direct links to what ever is playing...
tonight is different only because of the particular subject.

16 posted on 06/20/2006 6:54:47 PM PDT by norton
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To: FoxPro

You've got to admire the tenacity of the America-haters. We're headed toward a substantial victory in Iraq, bringing freedom to millions of people and hope to billions -- and the liberals just keep trying to throw sand in the gears. They never give up.


17 posted on 06/20/2006 7:08:49 PM PDT by 68skylark
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To: FoxPro
One interesting (if unintended) point was made early in the show. Rumsfeld was not happy that the (Clinton run) military had no plans for responding to AQ in Afghanistan.
18 posted on 06/20/2006 7:13:07 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: FoxPro
Tenet served as the Deputy Director of Central Intelligence from June 1995 until he became Director on July 11, 1997, after a unanimous confirmation vote in the United States Senate. This followed the withdrawal of Anthony Lake, whose nomination had been blocked by Republicans in Congress. While the Director of Central Intelligence is typically replaced when a new administration comes to power, Tenet served through the end of the Clinton administration and well into the term of George W. Bush.

This guy was another "Yes man" appointed by Clinton in the mold of Janet Reno and Madeline Albright. Bush was ill served by keeping him around.

19 posted on 06/20/2006 7:26:49 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: FoxPro

This show is unbelievably biased. But I'm watching


20 posted on 06/20/2006 7:41:47 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: FoxPro

Gees just how objective a report can it be if even the title is so preloaded as "The Dark Side"?


21 posted on 06/20/2006 7:43:32 PM PDT by tophat9000 (If it was illegal French Canadians would La Raza back them? Racist back their race over country)
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To: FoxPro

So . . . the CIA presents their side of the story. A few straw men here and there. People covering their legacy fannies.


22 posted on 06/20/2006 7:47:43 PM PDT by Paraclete
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To: Paraclete

Bob Grahm is an unbiased source isnt he? /sarc


23 posted on 06/20/2006 7:50:12 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Paraclete

I Love the pic of tenets eyses that make him look like a puppy being scolded L0L


24 posted on 06/20/2006 7:51:18 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: FoxPro
People without cabel or dish TV, and my neighbors, who all suffer from depression or are hypochondria.

So many choices....one doesn't know where to start.

25 posted on 06/20/2006 7:53:20 PM PDT by Osage Orange (The pen is mightier than the................pigs.)
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To: NutCrackerBoy
But plenty of nuance for the moonbats to do their typical paranoid thing.

WBGH-TV, Boston. Need I say more? Frontline should have been defunded 25 years ago.

26 posted on 06/20/2006 7:56:06 PM PDT by Bernard Marx (Fools and fanatics are always certain of themselves, but the wise are full of doubts.)
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To: mylife

Wow. They made Cheney into the new Rove. All about Cheney. they made him look like Darth Vader.

not a very balanced piece. Note Tenet and Cheney stayed away from this dreck.


27 posted on 06/20/2006 8:01:38 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: finnman69
They made Cheney into the new Rove

Ahhh.. but they fingered Rummy in the Ford white house as the guy who gave Cheney power by tricking Ford. Therefore Rummy is Rove L0L

28 posted on 06/20/2006 8:05:15 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

29 posted on 06/20/2006 8:05:40 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Man was made in the image of God, not pond scum)
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To: reagan_fanatic

Heres Joooooeee Wilson!


30 posted on 06/20/2006 8:14:12 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Paleo Conservative

1-20-01 would have worked for me just fine!


31 posted on 06/20/2006 8:14:45 PM PDT by Cheapskate (America, _ _ _ _ YEAH!)
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Basiclly it looks to me as if many of the folks that provided information that help substantiate invasion of Iraq got nervous when wmd werent turned up and began changing their tunes and claiming they were coerced by the administration in order to cover their own butts from critisism.

Its called transference


32 posted on 06/20/2006 8:17:49 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: FoxPro

Wow! This is a well-orchestrated smear piece by Frontline on Dick Cheney. I could not believe the deceitful statements about Scooter Libby. Frontline implied Libby was charged by Fitzgerald with revealing Flame's name, when everyone (everyone not living in a cave) knows that is not true.


33 posted on 06/20/2006 8:21:22 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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To: mylife
(thought balloon) I am the GREAT RICHARD CLARKE,How dare you use any info that I do not approve of!!!"

That puke is a real piece of shi .

34 posted on 06/20/2006 8:22:21 PM PDT by Cheapskate (America, _ _ _ _ YEAH!)
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To: mylife

>>>Basiclly it looks to me as if many of the folks that provided information that help substantiate invasion of Iraq got nervous when wmd werent turned up and began changing their tunes and claiming they were coerced by the administration in order to cover their own butts from critisism.<<<

Exactly. So far, not a hint of Joe Wilson's contradictory statements to the NYT and the congress (e.g., no hint he is a pathological liar).


35 posted on 06/20/2006 8:22:55 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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To: Cheapskate

Yup, But I want to see what the libtards are going to be buzzing about in the AM


36 posted on 06/20/2006 8:24:12 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: FoxPro

And now the (drum roll...) "Dick Cheney declined an invitation by Frontline to be interviewed" (as if anyone in their right mind would want to be interviewed by that liberal propaganda machine)


37 posted on 06/20/2006 8:26:08 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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To: PhilipFreneau

Why do ALL PBS types give reports in whispering hushed tones?

Heres a clue about pbs,
This past Sunday they did a fathersday tribute and couldnt resist doing bits on fathers who beat and abuse their children ans on the celebration of single Moms as Fathers.

PBS is getting goofier and goofier with each passing year


38 posted on 06/20/2006 8:28:45 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: FoxPro

Time to de-fund PBS. Think of it: no more "NOW", no more "Frontline"; no more 'Good Time' Charlie Rose'; no more Tavis Smiley; and no more "News Hour". Of course, we will miss all those right-leaning shows, such as . . . (help me out here . . .).


39 posted on 06/20/2006 8:29:42 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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To: FoxPro

Cheney's adviser?

;^)

40 posted on 06/20/2006 8:30:01 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: PhilipFreneau

Aww they didnt need Cheney anyhow.

They had bob graham and paul pillar,tony kay and joe wilson.

Im shocked they didnt get hans blix and john murtha and john kerry and cindy sheehan


41 posted on 06/20/2006 8:33:28 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Bernard Marx
WBGH-TV, Boston. Need I say more?

Boston Globe 7/15/99 Anne Kornbluth "…WGBH-TV, Boston's publicly funded station, has been swapping names of contributors with the Democratic Party since 1994, a party official said yesterday, handing over a total of more than 32,000 names despite clear prohibitions against tax-exempt groups engaging in political acts …. Republican House members yesterday called for a criminal investigation of the station after learning of a single account of name-swapping between WGBH and Democrats this year. An official at WGBH initially downplayed the incident, saying it was a onetime mistake committed by new employees who did not understand the rules. But last night, Jenny Backus, spokeswoman for the Democratic National Committee, said the party has been sharing donor information with the public television station for years and to a much greater extent than WGBH officials had admitted….When the Democratic Party began compiling a mailing list last February, the official in charge of the procedure - known as the ''list broker'' - approached 123 organizations. Of those, 62 groups agreed to share lists. WGBH was among them - giving an additional 20,000 names in exchange for the names of 9,800 Democratic donors, plus the station received a financial payment for the equivalent of another 10,200 names. Backus did not know last night how much the DNC paid the station…."

42 posted on 06/20/2006 8:33:39 PM PDT by Libertarian444
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To: FoxPro

Interesting critique, but it seems like they're treating that time period like a vacuum and unless I missed something (I came in a little late on it), they completely overlooked Iraq's role in all of this and the games played with the UN.


43 posted on 06/20/2006 8:34:59 PM PDT by bobwoodard
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To: PhilipFreneau

No more Tavis Smiley? say it isnt so! He's fair and balanced ;)


44 posted on 06/20/2006 8:35:59 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: bobwoodard

What they all miss is the fact thatwe didnt need WMD to justify going to Iraq.

Saddam balked on the resolutions he was to abide by at the conclusion of gulf war 1

He was shooting at or pilots daily, He employed a plot to assasinate GH Bush.

Legally since he never abided by the resolutions we were effectivly still at war


45 posted on 06/20/2006 8:39:43 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: FoxPro

I watched for maybe five minutes and concluded, just more Bush bashing... aren't they getting a bit obvious?


46 posted on 06/20/2006 8:44:26 PM PDT by Nanny7
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To: mylife

All in all, I'd call the program a documentary in the Michael Moore genre.


47 posted on 06/20/2006 9:36:28 PM PDT by Paraclete
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To: bobwoodard

Yep. It was all one-sided. The omissions were glaring, and the inconsistencies obvious. For instance, the show praised the NIE reports almost as Gospel and then, when an NIE report's conclusion didn't fit the show's aim, they tried to make it seem like Cheney himself was the author.

There was one great moment - I laughed my arse off when they had some pollyannish lib talking about how Condi, as NSA, should have chastised everybody else for sloppy work. Dude said it like it happens all the time, but no examples were ever given, and it was completely pie in the sky foolish and ridiculous on its face.


48 posted on 06/20/2006 9:50:09 PM PDT by Kryptonite (Keep Democrats Out of Power!)
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To: reagan_fanatic

I copied and posted the photo to my blog...I LOVE IT.
Hope you don't mind. (i.e. if it's copyrighted let me know).


49 posted on 06/20/2006 10:07:35 PM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: KoRn

No, his Sith master apparently... :)


50 posted on 06/21/2006 3:58:19 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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