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The poor image that Islam enjoys in the US is entirely of their own making. If CAIR spent more time discouraging barbaric behavior among their co-religionists, and less time whining about discrimination and image problems, they'd make headway a lot faster.

BTW, the ex-congresscritter named in the article is an unfortunate demonstration that the RAT party does not have a monopoly on moonbat dhimmis.

1 posted on 06/21/2006 12:17:58 PM PDT by white trash redneck
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Is it really a "phobia" if the threat is real? How many Churches are there in the Muslim world? Do we occasionally riot and kill Muslims like the Indonesians occasionally riot and kill Christians? Do we give terrorist masterminds time off for good behavior like they to in Indonesia? Does CAIR live in the real world?
67 posted on 06/21/2006 2:21:05 PM PDT by jackieaxe (Democrats are mired in a culture of screwing English speaking, taxpaying, law abiding citizens!)
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In the May 12 edition of THE CATHOLIC WITNESS (published by the Diocese of Harrisburg PA) there is a graph titled, "How Americans View Muslims." It has a picture of a woman covered head-to-toes. The text reads,

"About a third of Americans are unaware
that Muslims worship the same God as Christians and Jews."

Below that is a graph showing:
32% 33% 35% Muslims worship the same God as Christians/Jews
33% 30% 37% Muslims want to impose their faith
27% 30% 43% Islam teaches violence/hatred
Agree-no opinion-disagree

And in teeny tiny font at the bottom: "Source: Council on American Islamic Relations"


It is outright deceit, because its premise is that God is identical to Allah. Jesus Christ is God the Son, eternally One with God the Father, and He not the Son of Allah, as any Muslim will admit.

This item stands by itself, unrelated to any article on the page. Muslim propaganda in a Catholic publication.


68 posted on 06/21/2006 2:21:17 PM PDT by Graymatter
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To: white trash redneck
$50 Million vs. The Inconvenient Truth

MUSLIMS INSTRUCTED TO KILL CHRISTIANS AND JEWS [9:29-30] JUST FOR SPEAKING AGAINST ISLAM [9:32]!

KORAN [9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

KORAN [9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair [Ezra] is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!

FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS PROHIBITED:

KORAN [9.32] They desire to put out the light of Allah with their mouths, and Allah will not consent save to perfect His light, though the unbelievers are averse.

THIS IS MUHAMMAD'S EXAMPLE JUSTIFYING THE KILLING OF DUTCH FILM MAKER THEO van GOGH:

Hadith Sahih Muslim, Book 19, Chapter 41: THE MURDER OF KA'B B. ASHRAF, (THE EVIL GENIUS) OF THE JEWS [for authoring songs and jokes about Muhammad]

HADITH Sahih Muslim [19:4436] It has been narrated on the authority of Jabir that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said:
Who will kill Ka'b b. Ashraf? He has maligned Allah, the Exalted, and His Messenger. Muhammad b. Maslama said: Messenger of Allah, do you wish that I should kill him? He said: Yes.
He said: Permit me to talk (to him in the way I deem fit). He said: Talk (as you like). So, Muhammad b. Maslama came to Ka'b and talked to him, referred to the old friendship between them and said: This man (i. e. the Holy Prophet) has made up his mind to collect charity (from us) and this has put us to a great hardship. When be heard this, Ka'b said: By God, you will be put to more trouble by him. Muhammad b. Maslama said: No doubt, now we have become his followers and we do not like to forsake him until we see what turn his affairs will take. I want that you should give me a loan. He said: What will you mortgage? He said: What do you want? He said: Pledge me your women. He said: You are the most handsome of the Arabs; should we pledge our women to you? He said: Pledge me your children. He said: The son of one of us may abuse us saying that he was pledged for two wasqs of dates, but we can pledge you (cur) weapons. He said: All right. Then Muhammad b. Maslama promised that he would come to him with Harith, Abu 'Abs b. Jabr and Abbad b. Bishr. So they came and called upon him at night. He came down to them. Sufyan says that all the narrators except 'Amr have stated that his wife said: I hear a voice which sounds like the voice of murder. He said: It is only Muhammad b. Maslama and his foster-brother, Abu Na'ila. When a gentleman is called at night even it to be pierced with a spear, he should respond to the call. Muhammad said to his companions: As he comes down, I will extend my hands towards his head and when I hold him fast, you should do your job. So when he came down and he was holding his cloak under his arm, they said to him: We sense from you a very fine smell. He said: Yes, I have with me a mistress who is the most scented of the women of Arabia. He said: Allow me to smell (the scent on your head). He said: Yes, you may smell. So he caught it and smelt. Then he said: Allow me to do so (once again). He then held his head fast and said to his companions: Do your job. And they killed him.

APOSTATES AND "young people with foolish thoughts"
TO BE KILLED BY ANYONE WHO FINDS THEM (e.g. honor killings):

KORAN [4.89] They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:260] Narrated Ikrima:
Ali burnt some people and this news reached Ibn 'Abbas, who said, "Had I been in his place I would not have burnt them, as the Prophet said, 'Don't punish (anybody) with Allah's Punishment.' No doubt, I would have killed them, for the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [6:61:577] Narrated 'Ali:
I heard the Prophet saying, "In the last days (of the world) there will appear young people with foolish thoughts and ideas. They will give good talks, but they will go out of Islam as an arrow goes out of its game, their faith will not exceed their throats. So, wherever you find them, kill them, for there will be a reward for their killers on the Day of Resurrection."

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [9:84:64] Narrated 'Ali:
Whenever I tell you a narration from Allah's Apostle, by Allah, I would rather fall down from the sky than ascribe a false statement to him, but if I tell you something between me and you (not a Hadith) then it was indeed a trick (i.e., I may say things just to cheat my enemy). No doubt I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "During the last days there will appear some young foolish people who will say the best words but their faith will not go beyond their throats (i.e. they will have no faith) and will go out from (leave) their religion as an arrow goes out of the game. So, where-ever you find them, kill them, for who-ever kills them shall have reward on the Day of Resurrection."

AND MODERATE MUSLIMS TOO:

HADITH Sahih Muslim [5:2325] Abu Sa'id al-Khudri reported that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said:
A group would secede itself (from the Ummah) when there would be dissension among the Muslims. Out of the two groups who would be nearer the truth would kill them.

Unlike Christians, Muslims can pretend to deny their faith to fool unbelievers (Al-Taqiyyah):

KORAN [16.106] He who disbelieves in Allah after his having believed, not he who is compelled while his heart is at rest on account of faith, but he who opens (his) breast to disbelief-- on these is the wrath of Allah, and they shall have a grievous chastisement.

UNEQUAL JUSTICE:

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:283] Narrated Abu Juhaifa:
I asked Ali, "Do you have the knowledge of any Divine Inspiration besides what is in Allah's Book?" 'Ali replied, "...we have what is written in this paper as well." I asked, "What is written in this paper?" He replied, "...the judgment that no Muslim should be killed for killing an infidel."

HADITH Sunan Abu Dawud [14:2526] Narrated Anas ibn Malik:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Three things are the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, "There is no god but Allah" and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist). The tyranny of any tyrant and the justice of any just (ruler) will not invalidate it. One must have faith in Divine decree.

WOMEN (and girls) IN ISLAM:

KORAN [2.223] Your wives are a tilth for you, so go into your tilth when you like, and do good beforehand for yourselves, and be careful (of your duty) to Allah, and know that you will meet Him, and give good news to the believers.

KORAN [4.34] Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [7:62:67] Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet said, "A matron should not be given in marriage except after consulting her; and a virgin should not be given in marriage except after her permission." The people asked, "O Allah's Apostle! How can we know her permission?" He said, "Her silence (indicates her permission)."

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [5:58:234] Narrated Aisha:
The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age.

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [7:62:64] Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).

THE JOOOOOOZ IN ISLAM:

KORAN [9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair [Ezra] is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!

KORAN [5.51] O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:176] Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' "

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:177] Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:56:791] Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "The Jews will fight with you, and you will be given victory over them so that a stone will say, 'O Muslim! There is a Jew behind me; kill him!' "

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6981] Ibn 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
You will fight against the Jews and you will kill them until even a stone would say: Come here, Muslim, there is a Jew (hiding himself behind me); kill him.

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6982] Ubaidullah has reported this hadith with this chain of transmitters (and the Words are):
"There is a Jew behind me."

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6983] Abdullah b. 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
You and the Jews would fight against one another until a stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; come and kill him.

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6984] Abdullah b. 'Umar reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said:
The Jews will fight against you and you will gain victory over them until the stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; kill him.

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6985] Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.

© Religion of Peace

KORAN (Shakir translation): http://www.hti.umich.edu/k/koran/
HADITH: http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/reference/searchhadith.html

ISLAM DELENDA EST!

76 posted on 06/21/2006 3:14:20 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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Most Ameicans have a far too charitable view of Islam thans to the existing PC assumptions of the media. CAIR wants pure propoganda.
PS. When will Findley follow the usggestions of his Saudi masters and convert to Islam?
80 posted on 06/21/2006 4:44:58 PM PDT by rmlew (Sedition and Treason are both crimes, not free speech.)
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Be prepared to counter this well-funded Wahhabi Lobby campaign in the near future, within your sphere of influence (family, friends, letters to the editor, your pastors, politicians, etc.).




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81 posted on 06/21/2006 4:48:58 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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Click here for the FBI's hate crime stats for 2004.

While any assault is deplorable and should be punished, I'd say CAIR's making a mountain out of a molehill.

82 posted on 06/21/2006 4:49:31 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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A survey conducted by Cornell University recently found that around half of Americans have a negative view of Islam and would like the US government to curtail the political activity of Muslims in the US.

Only half? That's depressing...

84 posted on 06/21/2006 4:50:42 PM PDT by veronica ("A person needs a sense of mission like the air he breathes...")
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Corrected statement:

"the cancer of Muslim and Islamic sentiments was spreading in American society and requires corrective measures to stamp out this malaise."


85 posted on 06/21/2006 4:51:50 PM PDT by MonroeDNA (Mohhamed drank urine from female pigs.)
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Yep, this religion is one of peace and love:


87 posted on 06/21/2006 4:52:54 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (The Left created, embraces and feeds "The Culture of Hate." Make it part of the political lexicon!)
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Paul Findley

I stopped reading there. A man with an agenda a vendetta

96 posted on 06/21/2006 6:07:25 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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There is not enough money that can be spent, or time to spend it in, that could change my opinion of Islam( Death be upon it).
And I have NO problem being judged by the Crusades- except for the fact that they ended too soon- and didn't totally eradicate Islam.
And don't you love how they always pull the Crusades out of their rears! They WILL compare Christian violence of centuries ago to Muslim violence NOW.
That's like saying wayy back in childhood, we all defecated on ourselves so we're all the same. No- we're not- not if one group is still messing in its pants at the age of 50, when the first group got toilet trained at 3.


98 posted on 06/21/2006 6:11:14 PM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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" which has been badly dented in part due to the events of Sept. 11, 2001."

Badly dented? Good Lord!

I for one know my opinion isn't going to change it's been fueled by 5 years of outright endorsement through their actions. Yes silence is the ultimate action, its the action of a coward that hides in the shadows and attacks like a snake.

On 9/11 I was suddenly given 3000 reasons to hate islam and its followers, since then they have done nothing to attempt to change my mind.

To Hell with them........it's where they are headed anyway.

100 posted on 06/21/2006 6:17:57 PM PDT by Kakaze (American: a Citizen of the United States of America........not just some resident of said continent)
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Maybe if they got saDan Blather to spread the words of muuuhhhamhead (Pigs be inseminating him)about IS-Slime, then we would all submit to the will of satanallah!

NOT!!!

108 posted on 06/21/2006 7:45:40 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I'd rather be carrying a shotgun with Dick, than riding shotgun with a Kennedyl!)
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Proudly biased against Muslims.

110 posted on 06/21/2006 8:13:34 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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I'm pretty well fed up with the phobia sh*t! Everytime anyone speaks up about any minority group, or just plain ol' plastic-banana-good-times-rock'n'roll liberals, we're supposed to be suffering from some sort of "phobia".

Sort of reminds me of a joke I heard about the old redneck woman who had made love with all 4,000 guys in the town, and and said, "There ain't a decent **** among them". Maybe she should have taken a look at herself, if all 4,000 were that bad.

If we have all these islamophobics, homophobics, et al, then maybe it's just the MSM/libs have some too, like decencyphobia, capitalistphobia, and bush-a-phobia.

If "phobia" is a fear of something, then they could have free-country-phobia, securityphobia, truth-phobia, or the ever-dreaded "allow-a-fetus-to-live-phobia.

They also suffer from God-phobia, Ten-Commandment-phobia, and freedom-of-speech-from-the-opposition-phobia.

Their hero-phobia is manifested in the many attempts they make to dispel the greatness of the founding fathers and make America the bad guy of the world.

But, I could go on and on with different "phobias" the left has, but the bottom line is they "fear" everything - ESPECIALLY BEING OUT OF POWER. I remember in the 60's when they came out with the infamous "peace symbol"...most of us called the the "Footprint of the American Chicken"...which just about summed it up.

The leftists are the losers in America; those who are lifelong wannabe's, but they are never-were's. They are the crowd who never felt quite equal to everyone else, and like crabs in a bucket, everytime one of them tries to climb out of the "bucket", all the others pull him back in.

We do need more decisive leaders, who will do what is necessary to protect us and to show the despots of the world - like N. Korea and Iran that if you muck with us, you're going to get slapped - and HARD.

But the left is so scared of the rest of the world, they would rather us go belly-up and kiss their collective arses than stand up and remain free.

There is one thing that will put a halt to their dreams - and that is Americans...Americans do not know how NOT to be free, and we will fight to maintain that status. What the MSM/libs do not know is, that taliban dipstick doesn't care that you're sheilding him and blaming us...if he wins, you'll probably lose your head(s) over it...just like the rest of us. All he will remember you for is being the "infidel" that once kissed his ass.
112 posted on 06/21/2006 8:34:30 PM PDT by FrankR (democrats don't oppose Republicans...democrats oppose AMERICA...)
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He said a minority of Muslim extremists helps perpetuate anti-Muslim sentiment in the US, but that it is wrong for Americans to rush to conclusions based on these groups that have distorted or misinterpreted Qur’anic text. Qur'an text is quite clear thank you. There is little doubt that conflict, hatred, intolerance, war, blood and guts lubricating all the land is at the heart of this cult. The so called religion spread, not by winning hearts and minds and setting example but by intimidation, fear and brutal wars in which the losers had a choice, convert or die. And by the way, the crusades were no more brutal than the spread of Islam throughout the lands. At least the crusaders had only one goal in mind and that was to recapture only Christian lands lost during the spread of Islam by conquest. Islam was more brutal and it's purpose was to conquer the world and convert the world's population to Islam. And by the way, the silence from the so called moderate Muslims is deafening. I get a kick out of the voices who claim that only a small minority of fanatics are terrorists. But a huge majority are so quiet about that small minority that ones eardrums can't manage the silence.
113 posted on 06/21/2006 8:52:48 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey
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CAIR campaign to dispel misunderstandings of Islam and Muslims

Absolutely no misunderstanding. After reading the Koran one can only conclude that Islam is a religion of intolerance of non believers, bigotry, hatred and war against non believers.

The only misunderstanding is CAIR's belief that they can pull the wool over our eyes. This radical organization, whose leadership has supported terror and prosecuted as enabling terrorism, is the enemy. Make no mistake about CAIR's intentions. They are NOT honorable intentions.


114 posted on 06/21/2006 9:00:47 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey
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To: white trash redneck; F15Eagle; backhoe; Salem

Memo to Paul Findley and CAIR:

I learned everything I needed to know about Islam from 9/11 and from all the hijackings, blowing up of airliners, and terrorist murders done by muslims since the 1960s. In a word, "mister" Findley and CAIR - kiss my Dixie tailpipe.


122 posted on 06/22/2006 5:05:01 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Mexico: America's Palestine)
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To: white trash redneck
There is NO "islamaphobia" in the US. Rather, the MSM has been working overtime to sanitize the horrific deeds and actions by the islamists, so as not to enrage the American public, because the last thing anyone in the media wants is for Americans to get upset over the war, and begain supporting President Bush and the War on Terror.

Mark

125 posted on 06/22/2006 5:57:50 AM PDT by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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We just need a lot more Arnold Ziffels


130 posted on 06/22/2006 10:08:03 AM PDT by xp38
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