Mosque Matters (Jihadists Indoctrination/Recruitment Centers?)

National Review Online ^ | June 22, 2006 | Michael Ledeen

[seasoned traditionalist]

Some day we will be forced to deal fully with the war we are in, and when that happens we’re going to discover a lot of very nasty problems about the future of America. Not all mosques are jihadi, but all jihadis come from a mosque. So mosques can be very dangerous places when the local imam preaches jihadism, as is done in the thousands of Saudi-sponsored Wahhabi mosques all over the world, including the United States.

[seasoned traditionalist]

As the article points out, most mosques are funded by our good "ally" Saudi Arabia.

Comming to a neigborhood near you

And why not, there is even a new mosque at the Marine base in Quantico, Virginia.

[Redleg1963]

"Not all mosques are jihadi"

Wanna bet?

[Eagles6]

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[paguch]

Some blog should start listing Mosques so peole from the area can contribute infornation that they know about the Mosque. Identify the people who go there so their neighbors and people at work can watch them.

[SIRTRIS]

"Not all mosques are jihadi, but all jihadis come from a mosque." Interesting quote & clearly matches Most Americans know that the vast majority of Muslims are not terrorists, but we also know that the vast majority of terrorists are Muslim.

[308MBR]

Please Admin Mod, don't go moving this thread. It's contents bear repeating in several places.

[nmh]

"It is clearly a matter of some urgency to put an end to the sort of indoctrination and recruitment that took place at the Masjid Fatima Islamic Center in New York. But that is easier said than done, because the absolutist interpretation of the First Amendment protects the imams and the incendiary sermons preached at such mosques. Freedom of religion forbids the state from meddling in the religious activities of the mosques, and freedom of speech forbids the state from telling the imams “you can’t say that.” "

Go to prisons and see what the "religion of color" is.

Imagine what these hate filled misfits will be willing to do when they get out against YOU! Again, they are protected.

[Salvey]

Freedom of religion forbids the state from meddling in the religious activities of the mosques, and freedom of speech forbids the state from telling the imams “you can’t say that.”

It would be interesting to see some traditionalist/constitutionalist public interest group challenge the notion that islam is a "religion" within the meaning of the First Amendment. Has this ever been done? I'm not sure what islam is, but it sure as heck doesn't walk like a religion or talk like a religion.

[nmh]

"It would be interesting to see some traditionalist/constitutionalist public interest group challenge the notion that islam is a "religion" within the meaning of the First Amendment. Has this ever been done? I'm not sure what islam is, but it sure as heck doesn't walk like a religion or talk like a religion."

Even if we don't like it, it is a religion. Wicca is now an acceptable "religion" within our military. It seems there is no limit to these kinds of "religions" BUT don't you dare let military Chaplains pray in the name of Jesus Christ - and THEN you have problems.

It's amazing what is going on out there.

[Thom Pain]

"As the article points out, most mosques are funded by our good "ally" Saudi Arabia."

Does more terrorist money come from oil or drugs? If oil, won't that become a self-limiting problem over the next 100 years? Couldn't that source be modulated if we were reasonably self-sufficient (drilling our own oil rather than letting the Saudis control our destiny)? Wouldn't legalization of drugs stop/seriously hinder that stream of $$?

[seasoned traditionalist]

FROM “MOSQUES IN THE USA.”:

http://libraries.mit.edu/guides/subjects/islamicarchitecture/visual/usamosques.html

Designed Mosques in the United States and Canada

Mosques and Islamic centers are being built all over the United States of America and Canada.

These projects range from small prefab buildings to grand, monumental structures.

To date there are over 2,000 mosques in the United States of America alone.

FROM THE MUSLIM INTERNET DIRECTORY:

http://2muslims.com/directory/Mosques_And_Centers/United_States/index.shtml

Home > Mosques And Centers > United States
United States
SubCategories In United States

Alabama (2)
Arizona (1)
California (13)
Connecticut (0)
District of Columbia (1)
Florida (4)
Georgia (3)
Illinois (7)
Indiana (3)
Iowa (5)
Maryland (3)
Massachusetts (1)
Michigan (5)
missouri (1)
New Hampshire (1)
New York (5)
North Carolina (3)
Ohio (3)
Oregon (4)
Pennsylvania (2)
South Dakota (1)
Tennessee (4)
Texas (6)
UTAH (8)
Virginia (9)

[Rummyfan]

Not all mosques are jihadi, but all jihadis come from a mosque.

That's it right there.

[livius]

Islam is more like a cult than a religion - that is, it is an all-embracing system that even tells its adherents what hand to wipe themselves with. And it is by its nature a political entity, that is, it sees itself as a political system, which no other religion does. I don't think it should be classified as a religion, either. It may be a very old cult, but it's a cult, nonetheless.

If you look at Muslim converts, you wouldn't be able to tell them apart from the followers of Jim Jones or the nutcases of the Heaven's Gate cult. They're lost souls looking for something to latch onto that will control every step of their lives. Unfortunately, the Islamic cult is a lot more vicious than most Western cults.

[livius]

4 in Florida? Heck, I can list 4 just within about a 50 mile radius of me here in Florida. There's a lot more than 4, believe me. They may be very tiny, but they've been planted all over the place by Saudi money, in preparation for America's forcible "conversion" to Islam.

[Wurlitzer]

"It would be interesting to see some traditionalist/constitutionalist public interest group challenge the notion that islam is a "religion" within the meaning of the First Amendment. Has this ever been done? I'm not sure what islam is, but it sure as heck doesn't walk like a religion or talk like a religion. "

This should be a required "header" statement on every mudslime related thread. If is-slime is a religion then so is the KKK.

For those like me who have a strong distrust of lawyers your statement seems to verify my opinion. If there were good lawyers, at least one of them would have tried your suggestion. You know how they like to push the envelope in an attempt to get their clients off. Some of that creativity would be welcome in giving a basic definition of religion.

A litmus test for religion might be a religion cannot call for killing those of another religion. A 2nd litmus test for an alleged religion might be it cannot call the followers to enslave those who are not followers. A 3rd litmus test for an alleged religion might be it cannot call for killing those who leave the religion.

I don't think those are unreasonable litmus tests for religion but we are not only at war with mudslime but democrats at the same time.

[Malacoda]

Indeed. There are "only" two mosques listed in Pennsylvania -- and I know of at least two (and a madrassa) just four miles down the road in Coatesville. There have got to be over fifty in Philadelphia proper.

[livius]

I suspect that the real number of mosques in the US - particularly in comparison to the relatively small number of Muslims - would be enough to make your hair stand on end.