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Officials deny Rainbow Family permit (Wildfire threat)
Vail Daily ^ | 6/23/06 | Vail Daily

Posted on 06/23/2006 10:56:13 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum

STEAMBOAT SPRINGS - A request for a permit for what's often described as a huge gathering of hippies was denied Thursday as U.S. Forest Service officials expressed concern over wildfire danger and frustration at trying to work with the group.

About 2,000 people have showed up at the Rainbow Family's gathering spot on Routt National Forest land about 30 miles northeast of here. The weeklong July 4th event is expected to draw between 15,000 and 20,000 people to the forest.

"The group showed up without any coordination with the forest service, even after numerous attempts," forest Supervisor Mary Peterson said in a statement. "Events of this magnitude require planning and careful consideration of public safety and natural resource protection. No one is exempt."

Peterson said they first tried working with members of the group in September. They received a request for a permit on Tuesday.

In rejecting the request, Peterson said conditions were ripe for large fires as 60 to 70 percent of the surrounding forest is dead or dying from an extensive beetle epidemic. Only one road leads into and out of the area, which would be inadequate in case of a fire.

No contact information was immediately available for the Rainbow Family, which touts itself as having no leaders, and no organization.

Forty-two people from the National Incident Management Team and the Routt County sheriff's department were patrolling the gathering. More than 200 violation notices have been issued, so far.

On Monday, forest service officers drew their shotguns and abandoned a checkpoint after a group of about 80 people surrounded their vehicle. The officers left without firing a shot and there were no injuries.

The group gathers each year on public lands. Last year, about 15,000 turned out for the event in Monongahela National Forest in West Virginia and the 2004 event drew about 19,000 to the Modoc National Forest in California.

Two motorized trails near the gathering near Big Red Park have been closed through Aug. 20 because it could take that long for all the participants to leave.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: forestservice; hippies; rainbow; rainbowfamily; vail; wildfire
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Now, with one run-in with the FS Law Enforcement and now this, what's going to happen next? Took the FS a long time to even get them to apply for permits....
1 posted on 06/23/2006 10:56:17 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Relocate them to the Nevada desert, preferably the Nevada Nuclear Test Site. Then they can have a glowing good time.


2 posted on 06/23/2006 11:01:14 AM PDT by scooter2
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

This is a disaster in the making.


3 posted on 06/23/2006 11:06:07 AM PDT by rwa265
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Bummer. What a drag, man.


4 posted on 06/23/2006 11:11:02 AM PDT by Lekker 1 (("Stocks have reached what looks like a permanently high plateau" - I. Fisher, Yale Econ Prof, 1929))
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Call Cartman!


5 posted on 06/23/2006 11:12:42 AM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (Whats the matter with these Liberals? Didn't they learn anything in reeducation camp?)
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To: rwa265

Normally the rainbows don't get violent for real, but with the fire hazard as high as it is, and the rainbow gathererings as self-indulgent as they are, it's not a good combination.


6 posted on 06/23/2006 11:15:30 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: rwa265

We had the Rainbow family gathering in Dillon MT back in the summer of 1999 I believe, and the Hell's Angels run in Missoula at the same time. The Rainbow crowd was passing through Missoula when the Hells Angels were in town and there were three cops for every Hell's Anngel member. It was quite the attraction. The Rainbow crowd was pissing off the Hell's Angels banging thier drums and antagonizing the cops. The HA guys were telling the cops that if they don't do something about the hippies that they would. Later there was a riot between the cops and hippies. The Hell's Angels and the people who came to watch the Bikers and their bikes were very entertained. It was hilarious.


7 posted on 06/23/2006 11:16:43 AM PDT by SeanOGuano
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On Monday, forest service officers drew their shotguns and abandoned a checkpoint after a group of about 80 people surrounded their vehicle.

It was reported in other accounts, but not this story, that the hippies threw rocks at the Forest Service officers. The use request they submitted was full of expletives and only partially filled out.

In the immortal words of Colorado native Eric Cartman, "Hippies.They're everywhere. They wanna save the earth, but all they do is smoke pot and smell bad. "

8 posted on 06/23/2006 11:16:56 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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And at a mass gathering, they put the hurt on the places they camp, leave a huge mess of trash and excrement, and act like they have every right but no responsibility to the land....


9 posted on 06/23/2006 11:18:37 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: SeanOGuano

The Rainbow crowd also cleaned out the local food bank on their way to their gathering.


10 posted on 06/23/2006 11:19:25 AM PDT by SeanOGuano
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I bet it was...given a choice between having to deal with a biker run and a rainbow gathering, I'd choose the biker run every time...


11 posted on 06/23/2006 11:19:47 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

No matter how this plays out, the Forest Service needs to go in there afterwards, document the destruction, and get it on the national news. Then the next location can be ready with an appropriate police response.


12 posted on 06/23/2006 11:33:00 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Now I see how serious a hippie infestation can be. I mean, come on... two months?

GET A JOB!!!


13 posted on 06/23/2006 11:35:45 AM PDT by non-anonymous
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Problem is getting the MSM to carry it, I believe. It does get documented...but because the rainbow people are a distributed network with no official leaders, it's mighty hard to prosecute.

I do believe even the requirements to get permits for big gatherings happened because of the rainbow people gatherings...


14 posted on 06/23/2006 11:37:34 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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60 to 70 percent of the surrounding forest is dead or dying from an extensive beetle epidemic.

Colorful little guys though...

15 posted on 06/23/2006 11:40:50 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll. 17,406+ snide replies and counting!)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
These folks infested the Cherokee National Forest here in SE TN 10-12 yrs ago. They are free-loaders who cause major problems in the small towns close to where they gather. Hardly any participate in any kind of serious criminal activity, but they make themselves a major nuiscance in smal towns that are not even close to being able to handle their numbers. They hit the towns panhandling, dumpster-diving, and exhibit all types of odd and immoral behaviour. It's one of those situations where they really aren't all that bad, but you would hardly want them converging on your town.
16 posted on 06/23/2006 11:41:55 AM PDT by Space Wrangler
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"Relocate them to the Nevada desert, preferably the Nevada Nuclear Test Site. Then they can have a glowing good time."

Why do you want to kill them? Have they done something to you or are you just being sarcastic? I've met these people and while they're rather wacky, well, extremely wacky, they're no danger to anyone. They treated an armed, Tennessee Redneck (me) really well.


17 posted on 06/23/2006 11:45:28 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: Space Wrangler

There is a rise in shoplifting, though...

That's the real problem...they come in in numbers the infrastructure can't handle, make everybody around them miserable, make a big mess, and they don't care. They're communing with nature. It's like a New Orleans Mardi Gras coming in and just as messy...but not as nearly profitable.


18 posted on 06/23/2006 11:46:51 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: dljordan

Pure sarcasm. No harm intented.


19 posted on 06/23/2006 11:47:45 AM PDT by scooter2
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To: dljordan

I believe that the danger they cause is the same as with any parasite. They consume without regard for their environment, they damage their host, and they produce nothing positive.


20 posted on 06/23/2006 11:49:47 AM PDT by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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