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Home front fears in war on terror ~
BBC Washington ^ | Saturday, 24 June 2006, 00:44 GMT 01:44 UK | James Coomarasamy BBC News, Washington

Posted on 06/24/2006 11:09:00 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

US officials have been making two main and, in some ways, contradictory points about the arrest of seven men in Miami for allegedly hatching a terror plot.

Chicago skyline
The Miami group were apparently targeting Chicago's Sears Tower

The first is an upbeat one: the alleged plot to blow up the Sears Tower in Chicago and the FBI building in Miami was not far advanced at all, they say.

In the words of one official, the alleged terrorists were aspirational, rather than operational.

But their second point - made forcefully by the US Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez and the FBI director Robert Mueller - is a rather more frightening one: Americans must be aware of the heightened possibility of home-grown terror plots, of threats that can come from their own streets.

According to the indictment against them, the Miami group may have been inspired by al-Qaeda and may have thought they were in contact with an al-Qaeda operative, who turned out to be an undercover agent.

But they were not part of a sleeper cell, sent from a foreign country. They were, in the main, US citizens, who had allegedly developed a hatred for their own country.

Domestic danger

Over the past year, the US authorities claim, they have disrupted three separate cases of home-grown terrorism.

One of those involved two men from Atlanta, who have since been linked to the arrests of 17 others in Toronto earlier this month in connection with an alleged plot to attack public buildings and behead the country's prime minister.

FBI building, Miami
The FBI building in Miami was also on the alleged target list

It is this case which has really provoked anguish in the US, prompting concerns about security along the border with Canada, and reflection on the possibility that Americans - inspired, perhaps, by extremist teachings - could carry out the sort of deadly attacks that were seen in London and Madrid.

It will be chilling for Americans to hear that, according to this latest indictment, the seven arrested men were boasting of an attack that would have been bigger than 9/11.

At the same time, there is, at this stage, plenty of uncertainty about the Miami arrests.

The families of the men, aged between 22 and 32, are loudly proclaiming their innocence.

Others are wondering how serious they could really have been if, as the indictment suggests, they were relying on their supposed al-Qaeda contact to supply them with boots.

Clearly, though, the FBI believes its undercover agent gathered enough evidence, over a period of months, to justify the arrests.

Policy contradiction?

Whether or not the arrests result in convictions, it is hard to avoid the conclusion that there is a political dimension to the way they have been presented.

The attorney general has faced a lot of criticism about the government's methods of tracking terrorists after 9/11.

View through a keyhole of the Miami warehouse

The group of men arrested lived inside a warehouse in Miami

Those methods include the so-called warrantless wire tapping programme, and the newly-disclosed policy of monitoring the supposedly confidential bank transactions of tens, maybe hundreds of thousands of Americans.

Any breakthrough in the fight against terrorism can only bolster the government's defence of these kinds of programmes.

Yet there is also a potential downside for the Bush administration in talking up the threat of domestic terror.

One of the arguments made for the continued presence of US troops in Iraq is that it is better to fight terrorists abroad than to fight them at home.

If the US is having to do both, surely the public will begin to call this argument into question?


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: floridajihad; islam; jihadinamerica
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1 posted on 06/24/2006 11:09:01 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
and, in some ways, contradictory points

Total rubbish--there is nothing contradictory in saying "It's good we stopped them when we did, but this is proof these guys are out there trying to hurt us."

2 posted on 06/24/2006 11:11:06 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

"One of the arguments made for the continued presence of US troops in Iraq is that it is better to fight terrorists abroad than to fight them at home.

If the US is having to do both, surely the public will begin to call this argument into question? "


Oh for Gods sake, how silly can this get?


3 posted on 06/24/2006 11:12:54 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

He's definitely a moonbat1


4 posted on 06/24/2006 11:15:17 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: ansel12
Oh for Gods sake, how silly can this get?

It's the BBC. They can go all the way to looney whacko, and not even get their hair mussed.

5 posted on 06/24/2006 11:16:18 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

President Bush's biggest failing was the PR team that let the White House, and in turn America, fail to rebut the lies of the Enemies of America.

The scumbag traitors commonly called Democrats, the Eurosluts weasels, the MSM, and the Islamist terrorist Enemy were allowed to attack America with gross propaganda lies with abandon while Bush and company said and did nothing.

The WMD issue could have been won easily given the multitude of evidence in support. A Clinton presidency would have basked in the sun of approval by comparison.

Since the addition of Tony Snow, things are much better, and there is a case for renewed optimism that they will not again lose news cycles easily.


6 posted on 06/24/2006 11:18:22 PM PDT by Stallone (Mainstream Media is dead. I helped kill it.)
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To: ansel12
This is from a Socialist Writer published in Asia:

Miami “terror” arrests—a government provocation ~~ ( View from the Marxists Left....Barf Alert)

7 posted on 06/24/2006 11:19:59 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Darkwolf377
I'll tell you what is contradictory, though . . .

How about the fact that any employer who wishes to minimize his exposure to this kind of crap by refusing to hire Muslims would face massive fines and civil lawsuits under EEOC regulations?

8 posted on 06/24/2006 11:28:57 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Darkwolf377
They were Muslims, they wanted to "blow up" something. If it could not been an office building then it could have been a day care, a restaurant, a sporting event, a mall.....
9 posted on 06/24/2006 11:35:27 PM PDT by Dallas59
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; hsalaw; Stallone

There is every indication that this latest purported terrorist threat—described by some media outlets as “even bigger than September 11”—was manufactured by the FBI, which used an undercover agent posing as a terrorist mastermind to entrap those targeted for arrest.




It is really amazing stuff.


10 posted on 06/24/2006 11:35:36 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Dallas59

A Double Decker bus...


11 posted on 06/24/2006 11:36:08 PM PDT by Dallas59
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To: Dallas59

A train station...


12 posted on 06/24/2006 11:36:29 PM PDT by Dallas59
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To: ansel12

“even bigger than September 11”—was manufactured by the FBI, which used an undercover agent posing as a terrorist mastermind to entrap those targeted for arrest."







For what it is worth, there may have been a little of this during the 60s.


13 posted on 06/24/2006 11:48:16 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Stallone

"Since the addition of Tony Snow, things are much better, and there is a case for renewed optimism that they will not again lose news cycles easily.



Agreed, he is our first spokesman instead of a sounding board.



14 posted on 06/24/2006 11:55:49 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Darkwolf377
This is another European whistling past the graveyard. They have let The Jihadists into their midst and handle it by putting thier heads in the sand.
15 posted on 06/25/2006 12:00:20 AM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Alberta's Child
"How about the fact that any employer who wishes to minimize his exposure to this kind of crap by refusing to hire Muslims would face massive fines and civil lawsuits under EEOC regulations?"

Every resume I receive where the job-applicant has an Islamic/Middle-Eastern names goes right into the shredder.

16 posted on 06/25/2006 12:22:48 AM PDT by 10mm
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To: Alberta's Child
I know it's flamebait, but I don't see any contradiction there. It's not illegal to be a Muslim, nor should it be, anymore than it is illegal to be a Nazi or a member of a militia group.

It's not illegal to be part of any group. What is illegal are specific actions. In my opinion it's OK to not hire someone based on his actions; it's not OK to not hire someone based on his beliefs. There's a word for that, but I ain't goin there! ;)

17 posted on 06/25/2006 12:28:32 AM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: blackbart.223
They live under the protection of the very Americans and soldiers they despise, and were the Americans and soldiers to stop taking actions which prevent the rise of Islamofascism, these people would be the first to go.

It's like watching a baby with a loaded pistol in its mouth, crying because his little fingers aren't strong enough to squeeze the trigger.

18 posted on 06/25/2006 12:35:22 AM PDT by Darkwolf377
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"It's not illegal to be a Muslim, nor should it be"

Yes it should. Islam, with its own laws which are incompatible with liberty, should be rendered unconstitutional and illegal in the United States.

19 posted on 06/25/2006 12:43:46 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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Yes it should. Islam, with its own laws which are incompatible with liberty, should be rendered unconstitutional and illegal in the United States.

Silly. By your definition, ANY religion should be rendered unconstitutional and illegal in the United States, since they all put a god above the United States Constitution, and would require obedience to that God before the laws of this nation.

Silly.

20 posted on 06/25/2006 1:42:15 AM PDT by Darkwolf377
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